What are your thoughts on the NSW education system? (1 Viewer)

[spiderfan44]

brother, to get into med rurally, you need ~91atar and 70%tile... If anything, urban students are disadvantaged.

yall ever heard of eas

 

[spiderfan44]

moving to rural areas is a really big thing bru
a rich city person isn't gonna move to a rural area just for an easier chance to get into med (usually)
rural education gives you a disadvantage, sure, however, it's way easier to be competitive for med as a rural student
the disadvantage from being rural isn't greater than the difference between a 99.5 and a 91

wheres the 99.5 number coming from

 

[Average Boreduser]

maybe the private schools should use the income they get to fund the teacher salaries, sports and extracurriculars. if they cant afford it, dont operate a school. if you want to operate as a business you should be treated like a business.

Unfortunately thats not how a schooling system would run as that in turn would make private school tuition infinitesimally more expensive? You do realise its a huge job to manage and fund a school right? It can't be simply treated 'like a business' because they still have to abide by government policies. Taking your logic would quite literally mean only the richest percentile of students in australia and since there aren't enough kids to fill enrolments, its a waste of a school 1. 2. It would still not guarantee if the school could function with the limited enrolments (as there is less funding).

 

[spiderfan44]

its unfair to reduce atar cutoffs for uni entry bc that's just a bandaid solution. the issue at the very root is that the quality of teaching and culture of learning is very poor. why would you mitigate when you can just fix it from the bottom? less effort for govt ig bc the threshold of success is lower

because the atar cutoff is set by the uni. what the fuck is the uni going to do to improve the quality of teaching and culture of learning

 

[Average Boreduser]

yall ever heard of eas

Not everyone is eligible for that mate...

 

[spiderfan44]

Unfortunately thats not how a schooling system would run as that in turn would make private school tuition infinitesimally more expensive? You do realise its a huge job to manage and fund a school right? It can't be simply treated 'like a business' because they still have to abide by government policies. Taking your logic would quite literally mean only the richest percentile of students in australia and since there aren't enough kids to fill enrolments, its a waste of a school 1. 2. It would still not guarantee if the school could function with the limited enrolments (as there is less funding).

my dad has to abide by government policies. hes a builder, he doesnt recieve gov funding. the vast majority have some type of government regulation they need to abide by. also i would prefer only the richest few get to go to private, while the rest get to go to well funded public schools because the funding isnt being soaked up by private schools

 

[Average Boreduser]

wheres the 99.5 number coming from

its the ranking you want to be considered for medicine.

 

[spiderfan44]

Not everyone is eligible for that mate...

im saying that rural is quite similar in idea principle to EAS

 

[spiderfan44]

its the ranking you want to be considered for medicine.

from the unsw website its a 97.15 atar. still higher than rural but i reckon its fair

 

[WeiWeiMan]

yall ever heard of eas

if you're considering urban kids with eas, idk if the claim that they still hold a significant advantage over rural kids is valid at all {ofc, there's still an advantage assuming they're still in sydney area}, however, they prob aren't particularly well off

 

[spiderfan44]

if you're considering urban kids with eas, idk if the claim that they still hold a significant advantage over rural kids is valid at all {ofc, there's still an advantage assuming they're still in sydney area}, however, they prob aren't particularly well off

im not saying people with eas have an advantage. im saying that the rural scheme is similar to eas, in that it recognises that you need to put in more effort to get a similar atar to someone w/o a disadvantage

 

[Bastani]

im not saying people with eas have an advantage. im saying that the rural scheme is similar to eas, in that it recognises that you need to put in more effort to get a similar atar to someone w/o a disadvantage

what

 

[Average Boreduser]

my dad has to abide by government policies. hes a builder

Regardless, your dad isn't running a school.

 

[Bastani]

Regardless, your dad isn't running a school.

what

 

[spiderfan44]

Regardless, your dad isn't running a school.

i dont think abiding by government policies should warrant gov funding

 

[Bastani]

i dont think abiding by government policies should warrant gov funding

what

 

[Average Boreduser]

i dont think abiding by government policies should warrant gov funding

Bruh did you miss the part where I was talking about the funding required to maintain a school... Student fees won't pay for that. Maybe a GPS school but not the majority of private schools in the state.

 

[spiderfan44]

Bruh did you miss the part where I was talking about the funding required to maintain a school... Student fees won't pay for that. Maybe a GPS school but not the majority of private schools in the state.

if the school cant be maintained then i dont think they should be propped up by the government. if the school cant function i think it should be converted into public

 

[Average Boreduser]

if the school cant be maintained then i dont think they should be propped up by the government. if the school cant function i think it should be converted into public

There would then be discrepancies on how said 'extra funding' would be distributed. Selective schools especially are known to force students to do 14Units to receive extra funding from the government. Corruption in the government sectors (enhanced by extra funding) would only cause more of a divide. It's a hit or miss if a certain school would receive the same as one who has essentially cheated the system. A communist style regime for schools would do nothing towards the gap for rural either because theres much more to it than just strictly funding. Private schools don't have this problem which is why families fork out that extra $ to provide their children with education that is guaranteed/promised to lead to students getting the most out of opportunities available.

 

[KloppsAndRobbers]

if the school cant be maintained then i dont think they should be propped up by the government. if the school cant function i think it should be converted into public

What? So the government should allow hundreds of relatively poor private schools across NSW to close? Do you even fathom the implications of that? The government aids several sectors across the economy that aren't public; what's so bad about funding schools? It's not like they're propping up Sydney Grammar or Knox lol.