Last minute LAT study (4 Viewers)

[JosephSeed]

I aint getting the average. Someone gotta be in the bottom percentile

dw lil bro i got you

 

[lunaaaa4403]

how much were we supposed to write? im curious bc i wrote very little for the amount of time we had. in exams 1 hour can get me like 1200 words and i only did like 550 each for lat.

 

[HazzRat]

how much were we supposed to write? im curious bc i wrote very little for the amount of time we had. in exams 1 hour can get me like 1200 words and i only did like 550 each for lat.

I’ve heard 800+ words

 

[ggujie]

what, which 5 are public?

north sydney girls and boys, ruse, baulko and ruse are public selective

 

[lunaaaa4403]

north sydney girls and boys, ruse, baulko and ruse are public selective

public and selective are literal opposites

 

[ggujie]

public and selective are literal opposites

how? i assumed the context of the discussion was that private schools have inherent privilege because of the paywall and higher education, and under the government, selective schools get the same amount of funding as comprehensive high schools. the only difference between selective and non-selective public schools is the entrance test, as it is a test that is avaliable to the public

 

[Ilikedrivingbymycarandthe]

how? i assumed the context of the discussion was that private schools have inherent privilege because of the paywall and higher education, and under the government, selective schools get the same amount of funding as comprehensive high schools. the only difference between selective and non-selective public schools is the entrance test, as it is a test that is avaliable to the public

Ngl as someone who went to an average public and then moved to a selective- your average selective definitely has more privilege than your average public even tho both r technically public. Lots of ppl who go to selective aren’t “ naturally gifted” but rather can afford lots of tutoring that your average individual can’t. Even if not everyone who goes to a selective is rich, just having the luxury to afford extensive tutoring is a privilege in it self. Selective schools also do have better teachers + resources than your average public. Like for e.g most public schools ( not selective) can’t afford Duke of Ed or many excursions- but I’ve found that selective schools have an abundance of those types of trips even when not rlly necessary.

 

[Tryingtodowell]

How r u guys preparing for that lat? I reckon I’m gonna look at the Oj Simpson defence to learn some ‘legalese’ and then do some practise responses.

not really, it just boosts your final mark, which is made up of your atar and adjustment facter and the LAT. i had a mates who got 50 and 30 but got atars of 97 and 92(this guy lived in a low socioeconomic area). that being said, im not getting in coz my atar is cooked

WTAF IS LAT?? LATIN?? I see that everywhere I dont get it. never heard this word ever being used in rl ever tf is that

 

[HazzRat]

WTAF IS LAT?? LATIN?? I see that everywhere I dont get it. never heard this word ever being used in rl ever tf is that

Bro https://www.unsw.edu.au/law-justice/study/undergraduate/law-admission-test

 

[JosephSeed]

WTAF IS LAT?? LATIN?? I see that everywhere I dont get it. never heard this word ever being used in rl ever tf is that

basically mate, the LAT is the law admission test done by UNSW. LAT for short.

 

[Tryingtodowell]

OH BRUH GAH

 

[lunaaaa4403]

Ngl as someone who went to an average public and then moved to a selective- your average selective definitely has more privilege than your average public even tho both r technically public. Lots of ppl who go to selective aren’t “ naturally gifted” but rather can afford lots of tutoring that your average individual can’t. Even if not everyone who goes to a selective is rich, just having the luxury to afford extensive tutoring is a privilege in it self. Selective schools also do have better teachers + resources than your average public. Like for e.g most public schools ( not selective) can’t afford Duke of Ed or many excursions- but I’ve found that selective schools have an abundance of those types of trips even when not rlly necessary.

LITERALLY THIS. I don't know why this is so difficult to acknowledge. I'm not calling private school kids privileged brats I'm just saying high ranking schools are usually private (and I thought selective was obvi)

 

[Ilikedrivingbymycarandthe]

LITERALLY THIS. I don't know why this is so difficult to acknowledge. I'm not calling private school kids privileged brats I'm just saying high ranking schools are usually private (and I thought selective was obvi)

Ikr, sometimes I’m stunned how ppl literally don’t know this

 

[ggujie]

LITERALLY THIS. I don't know why this is so difficult to acknowledge. I'm not calling private school kids privileged brats I'm just saying high ranking schools are usually private (and I thought selective was obvi)

Ikr, sometimes I’m stunned how ppl literally don’t know this

i'm really sorry if i came off as ignorant i also attend a selective school, and i definitely do acknowledge my privilege as someone who is able to afford extra tutoring for some of my subjects, but i wanted to point out the fact that selective schools are, at the end of the day, also public schools, because unlike private, it is not always a pay-to-win as i have learned from a lot of my friends, who do not attend any tutoring and are extremely bright. selective schools indeed receive more opportunities offered by their schools because there is that recognition of a higher standard that is placed upon the students, but i was moreso trying to recognise that selective schools are almost always the best option for individuals who are striving to get a high atar, and are willing to put in hard work, but do not necessarily have the resources available to pay for private schools, who otherwise dominate the hsc rankings. again, i'm really sorry if it sounded like i was ignoring the whole selective school tutoring privilege fact

 

[Ilikedrivingbymycarandthe]

i'm really sorry if i came off as ignorant i also attend a selective school, and i definitely do acknowledge my privilege as someone who is able to afford extra tutoring for some of my subjects, but i wanted to point out the fact that selective schools are, at the end of the day, also public schools, because unlike private, it is not always a pay-to-win as i have learned from a lot of my friends, who do not attend any tutoring and are extremely bright. selective schools indeed receive more opportunities offered by their schools because there is that recognition of a higher standard that is placed upon the students, but i was moreso trying to recognise that selective schools are almost always the best option for individuals who are striving to get a high atar, and are willing to put in hard work, but do not necessarily have the resources available to pay for private schools, who otherwise dominate the hsc rankings. again, i'm really sorry if it sounded like i was ignoring the whole selective school tutoring privilege fact

Look I understand where you’re coming from but just bc selective schools r technically “public” doesn’t mean they‘re similar to your average public school. While there a few naturally bright individuals with no tutoring, I’d argue that more than 95% of ppl who got into selective only did so bc of tutoring ( which most still do for the hsc let’s be real)- which does make acceptance a more pay-to-win system. This is coming from someone who did go to a public school hs before attending a selective one so the inequality is a way more obvious to me. You don’t sound ignorant tho, the things u say about selective schools like about the opportunities offered r true, but personally to me, I don’t believe someone should warrant a better education ( the resources and opportunities I mean) for a test they did in year 6. Like that’s not a great indicator of intelligence lol ( personal gripe )

 

[lunaaaa4403]

Look I understand where you’re coming from but just bc selective schools r technically “public” doesn’t mean they‘re similar to your average public school. While there a few naturally bright individuals with no tutoring, I’d argue that more than 95% of ppl who got into selective only did so bc of tutoring ( which most still do for the hsc let’s be real)- which does make acceptance a more pay-to-win system. This is coming from someone who did go to a public school hs before attending a selective one so the inequality is a way more obvious to me. You don’t sound ignorant tho, the things u say about selective schools like about the opportunities offered r true, but personally to me, I don’t believe someone should warrant a better education ( the resources and opportunities I mean) for a test they did in year 6. Like that’s not a great indicator of intelligence lol ( personal gripe )

Definitely, I was always a dumb primary school kid with a poor education and would never be considered for selective schooling. As someone who is trying to make an academic comeback, excelling in an environment with non-atar students and people with 0 academic drive can make it hard to stay motivated. I swear I'm first in some of my classes with a mid band 5 and struggle to improve because there's 0 collaboration in my classes because their busy watching race car videos and online shopping.

 

[lunaaaa4403]

i'm really sorry if i came off as ignorant i also attend a selective school, and i definitely do acknowledge my privilege as someone who is able to afford extra tutoring for some of my subjects, but i wanted to point out the fact that selective schools are, at the end of the day, also public schools, because unlike private, it is not always a pay-to-win as i have learned from a lot of my friends, who do not attend any tutoring and are extremely bright. selective schools indeed receive more opportunities offered by their schools because there is that recognition of a higher standard that is placed upon the students, but i was moreso trying to recognise that selective schools are almost always the best option for individuals who are striving to get a high atar, and are willing to put in hard work, but do not necessarily have the resources available to pay for private schools, who otherwise dominate the hsc rankings. again, i'm really sorry if it sounded like i was ignoring the whole selective school tutoring privilege fact

dw, also don't think that I'm privilege shaming you btw. considering you're on the LAT chat you probably work your butt off

 

[funny123]

Just wondering if anyone knows what date lat results usually get released as it says mid-november. I think last year they were released on November 15? Also do we get emailed them or do we need to view them through ACER or something. Thank you!

 

[lunaaaa4403]

Just wondering if anyone knows what date lat results usually get released as it says mid-november. I think last year they were released on November 15? Also do we get emailed them or do we need to view them through ACER or something. Thank you!

i do not what that shi back hg

 

[gammahydroxybutyrate]

Look I understand where you’re coming from but just bc selective schools r technically “public” doesn’t mean they‘re similar to your average public school. While there a few naturally bright individuals with no tutoring, I’d argue that more than 95% of ppl who got into selective only did so bc of tutoring ( which most still do for the hsc let’s be real)- which does make acceptance a more pay-to-win system. This is coming from someone who did go to a public school hs before attending a selective one so the inequality is a way more obvious to me. You don’t sound ignorant tho, the things u say about selective schools like about the opportunities offered r true, but personally to me, I don’t believe someone should warrant a better education ( the resources and opportunities I mean) for a test they did in year 6. Like that’s not a great indicator of intelligence lol ( personal gripe )

accurate take; this is the whole reason there was a media stink years ago about the selective test. even by the end of year 12 i would estimate conservatively at least 90% of students in my cohort were being tutored.

intelligence has next to no bearing on whether you can rote memorise the type and form of each question being asked. the overwhelming majority of selective school students get in through tutoring at a young age. tutoring is expensive and a privilege afforded to people of a higher socio-economic class where their parents have significant disposable income, whether or not they like to label themselves 'middle class'. the advantage is immediately clear when you compare the position of students without, having a 50 minute or so period with a teacher whose expertise can vary greatly and has their attention split between 30 odd students, against dedicated hours with an individual who is generally 'qualified' in that area to some degree with their sole focus being on you (or a small group). none of this is to say that these students aren't hardworking or that they're unintelligent or idiots; it's just that there are plenty of kids who are equally, if not more intelligent, stuck in the public school system with the deck stacked against them who will see vastly different educational outcomes at the end.

either way it tends to even out once you get to university; people reliant on tutoring to spoonfeed them what amounts to the answers in a subject will often find themselves punished by 2nd year when most courses actually require independent and critical thinking.