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Yeah I just googled it and there's nothing that says that. At best some people have said that they have a lifespan of 15 years but most of the literature suggests that in reality they will last significantly longer.

Because people don't equally weight issues. Some issues are make or break.

I really wish lantern was around here to comment on his great savior in Rudd

Lol dis thread

Interesting. I recall reading that the no women and children was only until Manus was brought up to standard. And I disagree, the gaping policy hole is no leader from any side of politics willing to actually show genuine leadership on this issue but instead just play to the common denominator...

You're an idiot

Yeah, it was a brilliant political move though, but that's about all I can say about it.

Nah Danny G takes the cake, who could possibly beat lets we forget on ANZAC day

Everybody gives preferences to the liberals at some point down the line. If you knew anything about the political process you would know this.

So voting for the Sex Party again this year I guess

Both of these are bad things

......seriously

Lol, you can't have it both ways. If you want Australia to be able to exercise its sovereignty and what not and refuse to accept boats well then guess what? Other sovereign countries are going to exercise theirs and refuse to take them back. This is why "turning back the boats" is a stupid plan

Ummm, no. I think you are fairly deluded if you think either side of politics has "factual" ads. The liberal party ads are just a list of 'promises' and slogans

Just saw a liberal party ad. Looks pretty much identical to the ones they ran in 2010

......wtf?

Qft

What? No I'm a statistician in the Public Service

I don't doubt that, but not to get too side tracked, but don't you find that interesting? In that Labor voters tend to favor a large state - until it starts snooping into their personal lives. Whereas liberals would generally favor a small state - but I get less outraged at this sort of thing.

As much as I wish this were true, I unfourtunately think that most Australians won't give a shit (and that is a great shame)