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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine and and
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine ok, temple mount, holiest place for jews. does that give them the perogative to ban all non jews from it? by your logic there, yes. you're right, the palestinians should bury elsewhere, there is more than enough room in otherplaces. that was my point.
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Aqsa_Mosque http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4&section=0&article=96848&d=30&m=5&y=2007 there ya go.
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine haha, oh man have you got it wrong. no.1 - The government of Israel has granted a Muslim Council, Waqf, full administration of the site. Since the beginning of the Al-Aqsa Intifada in 2000, all non-Muslims are barred from entering the site. the palestinians ban people...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine mmm, but it does. and for thousands of years everybody has agreed that the jews are a menace and shouldn't exist. but we do. and everybody in africa agreed that the blacks were subhuman and should be treated as such, but they were wrong. and lets not forget the two wars...
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    Re: Israel & Palestine thats more or less my point shifty. s'all im trying to say.
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine ok, so assuming that they are then happy with the strip and it will mean peace, thats cool. my only issue is that they've been given land in the past, and there still isn't peace. so it's a little hard to believe them when they ask for it. its like a bad credit rating on...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine shifty i showed you earlier, the palestinians wants have been considered in the peace process. they now control gaza and the west bank. how much more do you want israel to give them? the keys to jerusalem so they can ban jews and christians from the western wall again?
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine dude, if you're going to claim double standards on religious texts, and an absteeism of absolute truths, then why not accept that warfare was different 3000 years ago, and theres an answer for duet 20:17. back then it was acceptable, and it isnt acted on now...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine see, my problem with you asking that is that you are assosciating innocent jews/israelis with the soldiers. not every israeli fights, just like not every palestinian wants to blow themselves up. they are inhuman for celebrating innocent deaths. i refuse to even...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine cool, we have a quote. ill ask a rabbi and get back to you. just a thought tho, whats to suggest that the canaanite people of then are the lebanese of today? arabic people were nomads back then, sheep herders and the like. sorry about the pm thing, email not working...
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    Re: Israel & Palestine sam, wherea re the sources, you've just stated an opinion. which chapter and which verse in the torah calls for genocide? so far you haven't actually shown anything other than your complete lack of understanding about judaism. shifty, therein lies the crux of my...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine yeah, just makes things up and doesn't substantiate them, thats so much better...not. what you think of as the torah is an amalgamation of different texts that can't be understood properly in english. all the translations are sketchy at best, and completly incorrect...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine once again sam, quote where in the torah it says that, or don't bother saying it. if you can't be stuffed backing up your arguments, don't make them.
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    Re: Israel & Palestine sam, truth is so subjective. people believe what they are led to believe. hiroshima didn't kill all that many people in the scheme of the war. 9/11 was so unprecented because up until that point, no terror attacks, nor real war attacks had occured on american soil...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine the lebanese govt may not have wanted hizballah to kidnap the soldiers, but they don't do anything to stop hizballah from acting in their country. they grant hizballah legitimacy and recognize them as a political party rather than a terrorist organisation. so in part...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine because that would take more soldiers than israel has, and would place the entire country at risk. why not just expect lebanon to make sure there aren't terrorists acting with the governments permission within the country. it's always interesting to me how people...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine hey i agree that israel lost the war, i think it was ill planned and ill attempted, and they didn't fight it the way it needed to be fought. but thats the point where our opinions diverge. they bombed key infrastructure places (ports airports etc.) to stop arms...
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    Re: Israel & Palestine actually sam, the name is how i'm spelling it. you just use an americanism of it. maybe you're the foreign one here? Hizb'Allah - Party of god. now unless im very much mistaken, Allah is the islamic god, not bollah. sides sam, he has sources, you just have opinions...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine when you start generalising from a single incident, you make a set a really bad precedent. if you think all zionists are like that then i would have to assert that you are mistaken. there are deviants in all walks of life, everywhere, regardless of religion or belief...
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