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i)."The depth of the
snow, h, increases at a constant rate through the night and the following day."
therefore:

dh/dt = c, where c is a constant

Integrating we het h=ct+d, where d is the constant of integration
when t=0, we are given "The first snow of the season begins to fall", therefore h = 0
0=0+d, therefore d = 0

therefore h=ct

we are given "v =A/h where A is a constant."

velocity is the rate of change pf x, therefore dx/dt = v = A/h
but h=ct, therefore dx/dt = A/ct

let k = A/c, k is a constant since c and A are constants

therefore v=k/t
 

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ii). "In the period from 6 am to 8 am the snow plough clears 1 km of road, but
it takes a further 3·5 hours to clear the next kilometre."

therefore it takes 2 hrs to clear first Km, 3.5 hours to clear 2nd Km

Now lets express how much snow is cleared in terms of how long it takes to clear it:
it took 1.5 hours more to clear the snow that built up in the 2nd km, expressing in terms of time: it took 1.5 hours longer to clear 3.5 hours worth of snow

therefore to get the rate of how much 'hours' worth of snow is cleared in 1 hour is:

3.5/1.5 = 2& 1/3

therefore since it took 2 hours to clear teh first km, 2x2&1/3 hours worth of snow must have been cleared, that is 4&2/3 hours

so snow must have started falling 4&2/3 hours before 8am, when it finished teh first kM

THEREFOE IT BEGAN TO SNOW AT 3:20AM

soz couldnt find a way to do it using the result proved in i), but i will continue to try to work it out using i).

EDIT:

found out how to use the result derived in i)., which is how i think examiners would have wanted the solution:

from teh Q: "Let x km be the distance the snow plough has cleared and let t be the time
in hours from the beginning of the snowfall. Let t = T correspond to 6 am."
therefore 8am corresponds to t=(T+2), while the 2nd km is finished clearing at t-(T+5.5)

dx/dt = k/t
integrating WRT t, from t= T, to t= (T+2), which will give us the distance the plough has cleared (1km)
let log = log base e
that is 1=log(T+2)-log(T) = log ((T+2)/T)

however, 1 km was also cleared from t=(T+2) to t=(T+5.5)
that is (integrating WRT t, from t= (T+2), to t= (T+5.5):
1=log(T+5.5)-log(T+2)= log((T+5.5)/(T+2))

since bothe quations = 1, they equate:
log((T+2)/T)=log((T+5.5)/(T+2))
(T+2)/T = (T+5.5)/(T+2)
(cross multiply)
(T+2)(T+2)=T(T+5.5)
T^2 +4T +4 = T^2 +5.5T
4=1.5T
T= 4/1.5 = 2&2/3

we need when t=0, which is 2&2/3 hours before 6AM
therefore t=0 corresponds to 3:20 am

EDIT 2:

save your money, but if your really keen on giving it away, give it to charity!!!
 
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You really going to give him/her $20?
 

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Pwnage101 said:
dude i just answered it and don't give your money to anyone, either keep it or give it to charity!!!
Ok, what's your name and what charity should I donate it to?
 

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The "minijumbuk Burma fundings" would be a nice one
 

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lyounamu said:
Damn. I did exact question yesterday. Should have seen this post earlier.
Did you get it right? Apparently there was only 1 person in the entire state who got the right answer. :mad1:
 

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IMABOYDAMON! said:
Did you get it right? Apparently there was only 1 person in the entire state who got the right answer. :mad1:
It took me long to get it right. (trust me)

That was the 2nd (or 3rd) question from the fake HSC by live.fast. That question probably took me 20-30 minutes where it should take much less than that. Under the exam condition, I will get it wrong.
 

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Hmm what a bitch of a question, took me 40 minutes to do. Mind you I havn't done this type of maths for 2 years
 

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3unitz said:
dude, he isnt serious *slaps forehead*
Just because you couldn't answer the question, you hack.
You'll never live up to your username.
 
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what does it mean when it says 'Let t = T correspond to 6 am.'
 

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zzdfa said:
what does it mean when it says 'Let t = T correspond to 6 am.'
T is the time since the snow started. We let t = T (after 6 hours since the snow started)
 

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Raven3333 said:
Hmm what a bitch of a question, took me 40 minutes to do. Mind you I havn't done this type of maths for 2 years
I was referring to Part a). Part a) took me 20 mintues. I am not familiar with that type of question. I have gotta say that this question brought a whole new spectrum to how the questions can be asked in HSC Mathematics.

The second one took me 15 minutes. Once I figured part a) it took less.
 

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lyounamu said:
T is the time since the snow started. We let t = T (after 6 hours since the snow started)
I still don't get it, it says in the question 'Let t be the time
in hours from the beginning of the snowfall'. So what's T?
 

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zzdfa said:
I still don't get it, it says in the question 'Let t be the time
in hours from the beginning of the snowfall'. So what's T?
If you look at the question, we need a separate entity to the time to solve the question effectively. That's we have t and T.

Look at the guy's working out. It will give you a clue.
 

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zzdfa said:
I still don't get it, it says in the question 'Let t be the time
in hours from the beginning of the snowfall'. So what's T?
t is the number of hours elapsed since the begining right?
but we dont know when it began... we only now what has happened between 6ama nd 8am, so we designated T hours to have passed between the beginning of the snow falling (which we dont know - we want to find out) to 6am, and once we find T, we simply subtract from 6am to get when it started
T becomes our reference point cause we know 8 am is T+2, and 3.5 hours after that is T+5.5, etc
 

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