Adam and Eve or Evolution? (1 Viewer)

[Kwayera]

The creation of the universe is a concept of infinity that no amount of research or logic can answer.

How stereotypically defeatist.

 

[martin123]

science is about conducting an experiement and seeing if the experiment is true or false based on a hypothesis. Evolution is just a theory, all it is is a made up imaginitive story to get people to belive how life formed on Earth and it steers people away from the true christian faith.

the bible mentioned that noahs ark had rested on the mountains of arat in turkey, some scientists belive they have found the ark of noah. Check it on youtube. It is made of wood and is right near the mountain of where the bible mentioned it, there is also 270 stories from many nations retelling a time of a flood with each country having its own names of characters which build ark/boats, fill it with animals and then the rain comes and floods the world and only the people and animals living in the boat survive. If this is the case then doesnt it tell you something, that aybe the bibe is the truth.

Dinosaurs didnt live millions of yeears ago, they lived with us humanbeings, and the world is estimated to be only 6000 years old from the time of Adam and Eve. Here is a passage from the bible retelling of a dinosaur:

Job 40:15-19

"Look at the behemoth, [a]
which I made along with you
and which feeds on grass like an ox.

16 What strength it has in its loins,
what power in the muscles of its belly!
17 Its tail sways like a cedar;
the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.
18 Its bones are tubes of bronze,
its limbs like rods of iron. 19 It ranks first among the works of God,
yet its Maker can approach it with his sword.

http://www.ibs.org/bible/verse/?tniv=yes&q=Job%2040

Dinosaurs have always lived amongst humans, there are many carvings,paintings and sightings of them. Take the lochness monster, just in 100 years there has been 11000 sightings of the creature?

n this day, August 22, 565</SPAN>, St. Columba is said to have encountered the Loch Ness Monster.
Columba, you may recall, was trained by Irish monks. However, his youthful Christianity was skin-deep while his passions were strong. He was partly responsible for the battle of Cul-drebene in which many men lost their lives. Repentant, he sailed to Britain as "a pilgrim for Christ" and founded the monastery of Iona, from which Christianity spread across North Britain. He himself traveled and preached, establishing several churches and monasteries.
Revered as a saint, his life was written by Adamnan. In reporting Columba's life, Adamnan gives what appears to be the first written account of the Loch Ness Monster.
Traveling in Scotland, Columba had to cross the Loch Ness. On its banks, he saw some of the Pict folk burying a man who had been bitten by a water monster while swimming. The body had been pulled from the loch with the aid of a hook by rescuers who had come to his assistance in a boat.
Despite the danger, Columba ordered one of his followers to swim across the loch and bring back a coble (boat) that was moored on the other side. This man's name was Lugne Mocumin. Without hesitation, Lugne stripped for the swim and plunged in.
The monster, robbed of its earlier feast, surfaced and darted at Lugne with a roar, its jaws open. Everyone on the bank was stupefied with terror; everyone, except Columba, that is. A firm believer in the authority of the crucified Christ, he raised his hand, making the sign of the cross. Invoking the name of God, he commanded the beast, saying, "You will go no further, and won't touch the man; go back at once."
At the voice of the saint, the monster fled as if terrified, "more quickly than if it had been pulled back with ropes," says Adamnan.
The heathen were amazed. Everyone who witnessed the sight gave glory to the God of the Christians.
Did the event really take place? A church historian may be permitted a few doubts.
To begin with, Adamnan's account was written over a hundred years after the alleged events.
Furthermore, different versions of the story disagree with one another. One has Columba raising the monster's first victim from the dead by laying his staff across his chest.
We also note that this is only one of many extraordinary events in Adamnan's account. According to him, Columba dripped with prophecies and predictions that came true. He made water into wine like Jesus, drew water from a rock like Moses, calmed a storm at sea, provided a miraculous draught of fishes, multiplied a herd of cattle, drove a demon out of a milk pail, and cured the sick. A book owned by Columba could not be destroyed by water. Through his prayers he killed a wild boar, stopped serpents from harming the inhabitants of a certain island. Angels and manifestations of divine light attended him throughout his life. Adamnan's account has so many incredible tales that it is unbelievable.
Bibliography:

1. Adamnan. "Life of St. Columba." Medieval Sourcebook. http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/columba-e.html
2. Edmonds, Columba. "St. Columba." The Catholic Encyclopedia. New York: Robert Appleton, 1914.
3. Vann, Joseph, editor. "St. Columba." Lives of Saints with Excerpts from their Writings. New York: John J. Crawley & Co., 1954.

http://chi.gospelcom.net/DAILYF/2002/08/daily-08-22-2002.shtml

 

[Kwayera]

science is about conducting an experiement and seeing if the experiment is true or false based on a hypothesis.

Actually, no. Experiments are about disproving a single hypothesis (called falsificationist hypothesis testing).

Evolution is just a theory, all it is is a made up imaginitive story to get people to belive how life formed on Earth and it steers people away from the true christian faith.

No.

the bible mentioned that noahs ark had rested on the mountains of arat in turkey, some scientists belive they have found the ark of noah. Check it on youtube. It is made of wood and is right near the mountain of where the bible mentioned it,

No they aren't (scientists), and no they didn't (find Noah's Ark).

there is also 270 stories from many nations retelling a time of a flood with each country having its own names of characters which build ark/boats, fill it with animals and then the rain comes and floods the world and only the people and animals living in the boat survive.

Actually, while flood myths are common in ancient cultures worldwide, they all appear to refer to their own small localised floods, given the dates given often differ by thousands of years.

Dinosaurs didnt live millions of yeears ago, they lived with us humanbeings, and the world is estimated to be only 6000 years old from the time of Adam and Eve.
Dinosaurs have always lived amongst humans, there are many carvings,paintings and sightings of them. Take the lochness monster, just in 100 years there has been 11000 sightings of the creature?

Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhaha


Oh wow

 

[chaldoking]

How stereotypically defeatist.

No it isnt. God transcends time. God has always existed. So the only person that knows about the creation of the universe is the creator Himself.

 

[Kwayera]

No it isnt. God transcends time. God has always existed. So the only person that knows about the creation of the universe is the creator Himself.

Give us a few years.

 

[martin123]

lol its fascinating how you call it the theory of evolution, its means its just a thought, not exact, anything can turn up and change the theory of evoloution. Perhaps maybe judgement day?

The old testament is all of prophesis of a messaiah (jesus) and he did come on Earth and fufil everything. Christianity has spread to the ends of teh Earth all through christ. Our churches have witnessed miracles upon miracles during these 2000 years and you expect me to leave my faith to turn to a theory that hasnt even been proven? lol

 

[martin123]

Give us a few years.

they spent millions of dollars on a machine that didnt even work roflz

 

[Will Shakespear]

Dinosaurs didnt live millions of yeears ago, they lived with us humanbeings, and the world is estimated to be only 6000 years old from the time of Adam and Eve. Here is a passage from the bible retelling of a dinosaur:

Job 40:15-19

"Look at the behemoth, [a]
which I made along with you
and which feeds on grass like an ox.

16 What strength it has in its loins,
what power in the muscles of its belly!
17 Its tail sways like a cedar;
the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.
18 Its bones are tubes of bronze,
its limbs like rods of iron. 19 It ranks first among the works of God,
yet its Maker can approach it with his sword.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=EHrq-Qm8LX8

lol

 

[Kwayera]

lol its fascinating how you call it the theory of evolution, its means its just a thought, not exact, anything can turn up and change the theory of evoloution. Perhaps maybe judgement day?

That old chestnut.

"A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. It originates from or is supported by rigorous observations in the natural world, or by experimental evidence (see scientific method). In this sense, a theory is a systematic and formalized expression of all previous observations, and is predictive, logical, and testable. In principle, scientific theories are always tentative, and subject to corrections, inclusion in a yet wider theory, or succession. Commonly, many more specific hypotheses may be logically bound together by just one or two theories. As a rule for use of the term, theories tend to deal with much broader sets of universals than do hypotheses, which ordinarily deal with much more specific sets of phenomena or specific applications of a theory."

 

[Kwayera]

they spent millions of dollars on a machine that didnt even work roflz

It's not that it didn't work; it sprung an expensive leak.

You're awfully harsh on the most sophisticated and complex machine in the world, given they're still testing it.

 

[chaldoking]

they spent millions of dollars on a machine that didnt even work roflz

hahahahah

 

[chaldoking]

There is only "evidence" for the micro evolution, not for the other 6 types.

 

[chaldoking]

It's not that it didn't work; it sprung an expensive leak.

You're awfully harsh on the most sophisticated and complex machine in the world, given they're still testing it.

Its not sophisticated and complex if it doesn't work!

 

[bobzz]

so tell me if we came from monkeys, what happened to the poor fellow who;s still a monkey. Why we so lucky but his still aping around?
i belive we came from adam and eve, but i DO belive in evolution, just not evoultion of humans. after all, who created the monkey which came from the .. which came from the ... which uno..

 

[martin123]

That old chestnut.

"A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. It originates from or is supported by rigorous observations in the natural world, or by experimental evidence (see scientific method). In this sense, a theory is a systematic and formalized expression of all previous observations, and is predictive, logical, and testable. In principle, scientific theories are always tentative, and subject to corrections, inclusion in a yet wider theory, or succession. Commonly, many more specific hypotheses may be logically bound together by just one or two theories. As a rule for use of the term, theories tend to deal with much broader sets of universals than do hypotheses, which ordinarily deal with much more specific sets of phenomena or specific applications of a theory."

lol they found a small horse and linked it to all horses that live on this present day. ummm isnt it possible that there was large and small horses back then. what you find in fossilisation that resembles present day animals doesnt mean that they came from it. you cant create a different species from another one. try getting a moose out of deer. try millions and millions of years and the same deer would be born not a moose. cats dont give birth to lions, cows dont give birth to ox's, rabbits dont give birth to guinea pigs, the same thing is born again and again just like God intended it to.

 

[bigboyjames]

so tell me if we came from monkeys, what happened to the poor fellow who;s still a monkey. Why we so lucky but his still aping around?

+1

thats not even the evolution theory you fuck wit

i belive we came from adam and eve, but i DO belive in evolution, just not evoultion of humans. after all, who created the monkey which came from the .. which came from the ... which uno..

+1

 

[Kwayera]

There is only "evidence" for the micro evolution, not for the other 6 types.

As far as I'm aware, there's macroevolution (lots of evidence for that) and microevolution (which, as you say, there is evidence for as well). Feel free to enlighten me on the other five "types".

 

[martin123]

so tell me if we came from monkeys, what happened to the poor fellow who;s still a monkey. Why we so lucky but his still aping around?
i belive we came from adam and eve, but i DO belive in evolution, just not evoultion of humans. after all, who created the monkey which came from the .. which came from the ... which uno..

brother evolution is the devils work, dinosaurs lived amongst humans in the begining because they werent a threat. Everything ate plants, when adam sinned then death came into the world and we changed our diets and things began to die. Everyone thinks dinosaurs were belived to be millins off years ago. thats because we arent seeing them in this preasent day. so it seem to us that dinosaurs couldnt have lived amongst us, but in the bible mentions dinosaurs. But they dont call them that name because the word dinosaur wasnt made up until 1841, they were called dragons, the bible mention many dragons because that was there name back then.

 

[Kwayera]

so tell me if we came from monkeys, what happened to the poor fellow who;s still a monkey. Why we so lucky but his still aping around?
i belive we came from adam and eve, but i DO belive in evolution, just not evoultion of humans. after all, who created the monkey which came from the .. which came from the ... which uno..

We didn't come from monkeys. We share a common primate ancestor with other apes, and humans ourselves remain apes (the third species of chimpanzee, to be precise).

Go back to school.

 

[Kwayera]

lol they found a small horse and linked it to all horses that live on this present day. ummm isnt it possible that there was large and small horses back then. what you find in fossilisation that resembles present day animals doesnt mean that they came from it. you cant create a different species from another one. try getting a moose out of deer. try millions and millions of years and the same deer would be born not a moose. cats dont give birth to lions, cows dont give birth to ox's, rabbits dont give birth to guinea pigs, the same thing is born again and again just like God intended it to.

Repeat, go back to school.

If that's too difficult, read these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroevolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_fossil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils



And by the way, guys, we don't just rely on fossils. The genetic evidence is also overwhelming.