ADFA - Pilot, i need sum help~ (1 Viewer)

[Huynhzie]

im only in year 11 and i want to prepare myself wen i get out of high skool. im very interested in flying one of those F18's fighter planes or fighter jets. I have researched about the air force in the ADFA and i saw da requirements needed.
what i dont understand is that, afta completing the requirements which is 3years full time, how do u noe which flying section r u going to go in. this means like helicopter, transporter or fight jets. do u choose it at da beginning of the course wen u enter the pilot section or do THEY choose it for u, like kinda in a forced matter which i doubt but im just not certain.

AND After completing the 3 years full time course, where do u go?

Any1 noe? pls write ur ideas , thank you.

 

[Ghost1788]

aye
dont get your hopes too high, there are less than 30 of those planes in service from what i know and there are rarely used...

you will most likely get stuck flying them big fat planes..

If you want to improve your chances of flying a plane like a F18 or better move to America study up on American History and apply for their Airforce

 

[ioniser]

hey i was thinking of being a fighter pilot like yourself but the chances are very slim as above^


also to become a fighter pilot requires plenty of hard work ,such as top notch skills in science ,4 unit maths,geography and high iq levels.I know someone who actually who did the course and he said it was a lot of work before you actually get to even fly a plane,he passed all the examinations up untill the very last one which let him down(this last examination sort of made me stumble on the prospects of the job as well).The last test was to be actually flown in a fighter pilot plane reaching 7 gs.You get to sit this test a limited number of times(i think it was 5 times)without throwing up after the ride and if you don't survive all 5 times your out ,theres no next time.I also heard the probability was like 3 in 7 of surviving the ride

 

[drewbrow1]

"No doubt you will have a definite preference for a particular type of aircraft by the time you graduate. Your operational posting; however, will depend to a great degree upon the recommendations of your instructors, who are very experienced and, after nearly twelve months of close observation, are aware of your temperament, your strong points and aptitudes. While your preference is given due consideration, the needs of the Service ultimately take precedence."


Also there are medical and fitness requirements. Including height restrictions:
Acceptable BMI range is 18.5 to 29.9
Height - minimum 163 and maximum 193cm.
Sitting Height - maximum 100cm.
Buttock to knee length - maximum 67cm.
Buttock to heel length - maximum 122cm


Check out http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/careers_explorer/RAAF248.html for more info.

During training you'll be getting $1,637.04 per fortnight (for 67 weeks).

After training you have to serve for a minimum of 11.5 years.



edit:
Candidates seeking appointment or enlistment to any part of the ADF will have their application automatically rejected if:
a. they admit to ongoing habitual drug involvement,
b. they have been found guilty in a Court of Law, or otherwise convicted, of drug involvement,
c. they are found to have an addiction to habitual drug involvement; or
d. they admit to, or there is evidence of, a conviction for the use of or possession of an illegal drug, or of trafficking in any restricted or prohibited drug.

 

[Wooz]

aye
dont get your hopes too high, there are less than 30 of those planes in service from what i know and there are rarely used...

you will most likely get stuck flying them big fat planes..

If you want to improve your chances of flying a plane like a F18 or better move to America study up on American History and apply for their Airforce

There are actually 70-80 FA-18 hornets in service
check the units out
2ocu, 75sqn, 77sqn.
They are regularly used theres a couple over at richmond RAAF at the momment. They do regualr bombing runs near williamtown and training etc.

You'll have less chances with USAF (the american airforce) they have to many pilots last year they had to sack over 2000 aviators/crew from the airforce and navy.

 

[Wooz]

hey i was thinking of being a fighter pilot like yourself but the chances are very slim as above^


also to become a fighter pilot requires plenty of hard work ,such as top notch skills in science ,4 unit maths,geography and high iq levels.I know someone who actually who did the course and he said it was a lot of work before you actually get to even fly a plane,he passed all the examinations up untill the very last one which let him down(this last examination sort of made me stumble on the prospects of the job as well).The last test was to be actually flown in a fighter pilot plane reaching 7 gs.You get to sit this test a limited number of times(i think it was 5 times)without throwing up after the ride and if you don't survive all 5 times your out ,theres no next time.I also heard the probability was like 3 in 7 of surviving the ride

You do not need 4unit maths. Selection to be a pilot is through an interview board but the requirements are 70+ and passes in all subjects. You get flown in a roultette i dont think what you are saying is true it is very common for raaf fighter pilots to throw up air sickness at such high g's is almost un-avoidable. There are no previous flying/pilot pre-requisits to becaome a pilot , i know this because i have been to 77SQN RAAF Williamtown and spent hours talking to hornet pilots and there gorund crews. Plus i have flown the FA/18 simulator.

Ring recruiting 13 19 01 or visit the recruters at Paramatta.

 

[Wooz]

im only in year 11 and i want to prepare myself wen i get out of high skool. im very interested in flying one of those F18's fighter planes or fighter jets. I have researched about the air force in the ADFA and i saw da requirements needed.
what i dont understand is that, afta completing the requirements which is 3years full time, how do u noe which flying section r u going to go in. this means like helicopter, transporter or fight jets. do u choose it at da beginning of the course wen u enter the pilot section or do THEY choose it for u, like kinda in a forced matter which i doubt but im just not certain.

AND After completing the 3 years full time course, where do u go?

Any1 noe? pls write ur ideas , thank you.

For 3yrs you are deployed to certain aviation unit.
It depends on what you want to be if you want to be a helicopter pilot you tell recruiting then you take all the tests (physical, fitness, aptitute), go to an interview and they determine your suitibility for the role.
It is similar if you want to be a pilot you tell recruiting then you take all the tests (physical, fitness, aptitute), go to an interview and they determine your suitibility for the role. But before flying a fighter jet you get trained on prop driven aircraft such as a PC-9 roulette and the instructors determine whether you are suitable to be a FA-18 pilot.
It really depends on what sort of pilot you want to be eg a fighter, helicopter, transport. etc Training is different for each and you must be accepted into one of the fields and they do not determime whether you are suitable for each role you must take tests for each role they dont just draft you into different roles. My music teacher left school, he failed the FA-18 pilots course so he went to the army and passed the test to be a blackhawk helicopter pilot.

 

[Huynhzie]

the requirements for a pilot is Bachelor of science, aviation, technology, business and aeronautical engineering. each of this subject is 3 years full time each. This doesnt mean u have to stay at da uni to do it for 15 years yeh? cuz im sure dont.
so.. do u fit all those subjects within 5 years or whaT? any1 noes how it goes, reply thanks.

and thanks for the help u guys

 

[sikeveo]

er u do have to stay with them for 15 years. It costs over $1 million to train a pilot. Its called a Return of Service Obligation. Learn to speak english then come back and ask more questions.

 

[ioniser]

You do not need 4unit maths. Selection to be a pilot is through an interview board but the requirements are 70+ and passes in all subjects. You get flown in a roultette i dont think what you are saying is true it is very common for raaf fighter pilots to throw up air sickness at such high g's is almost un-avoidable. There are no previous flying/pilot pre-requisits to becaome a pilot , i know this because i have been to 77SQN RAAF Williamtown and spent hours talking to hornet pilots and there gorund crews. Plus i have flown the FA/18 simulator.

Ring recruiting 13 19 01 or visit the recruters at Paramatta.

iwas talking about once you get in you have to do 4 unit maths,it is also preferred if you did 4 unit in high school(eg you definetely need it for aeronautical engineering.As for the last requirement which is to be flown in an actual fighter pilot plane to see if you can survive the amount of g s they put you under,of course the test would be done under certain conditions such as on an empty stomach etc.you couldn't just accept everyone else who pasts all the other tests cause not every1 is worthy at such g s.Say for example you couldn't chuck someone who has met all the requirements but yet can't even survive a theme park ride(it would take hours of taining and would be more efficent and cheaper to just let them off if they don't past the final test)

 

[Wooz]

the requirements for a pilot is Bachelor of science, aviation, technology, business and aeronautical engineering. each of this subject is 3 years full time each. This doesnt mean u have to stay at da uni to do it for 15 years yeh? cuz im sure dont.
so.. do u fit all those subjects within 5 years or whaT? any1 noes how it goes, reply thanks.

and thanks for the help u guys

The requirements that you have are not true. There are no Uni requirements/training for pilots.

Educational Requirement
Applicants must have completed year 12 with passes in English, Maths and two other academic subjects. Maths in Society or similarly modified Maths subjects are not acceptable. Applicants must also have achieved a minimum of a C grade or equivalent in year 10 science.

Military Training
Initial Officer Course - 17 Weeks

Immediately upon joining the Air Force, direct entry officers will normally undertake the Initial Officer Course of 17 weeks duration. This is a live-in course completed at RAAF Base Williams (Point Cook) on the outskirts of Melbourne (VIC).

The major elements of the course involve introduction to military life, Air Force Values and attitudes, Ground Defence and Weapons training, Leadership and Personal Development, Communication Skills and Air Force Operations studies.

During Military (Initial Officer) Training and (Initial) Employment Training (if applicable), members may be required to pay a contribution towards meals, accommodation and utilities, depending on a number of factors.

Employment Training
Aviation Medicine Course - 1 Week

Combat Survival Course - 3 Weeks

Pilot Basic - 26 Weeks

Advanced Training - 37 Weeks

Initial Minimum Period Of Service
You will be appointed for an Initial Minimum Period of Service (IMPS) of 11.5 years. Subsequent periods of service may be offered subject to the requirements of the ADF and your suitability for further service. You may tender your resignation at any time provided you do not have an outstanding Initial Minimum Period of Service obligation and provide a minimum of three months notice

Go to: www.defencejobs.gov.au
http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/careers_explorer/RAAF248.html
http://www.raaf.gov.au/psa/index.htm

If you want more info post in the Australian defence force recruiting/careers forum:
http://community.boredofstudies.org/forumdisplay.php?f=511

 

[boomalaka]

hey i was thinking of being a fighter pilot like yourself but the chances are very slim as above^


also to become a fighter pilot requires plenty of hard work ,such as top notch skills in science ,4 unit maths,geography and high iq levels.I know someone who actually who did the course and he said it was a lot of work before you actually get to even fly a plane,he passed all the examinations up untill the very last one which let him down(this last examination sort of made me stumble on the prospects of the job as well).The last test was to be actually flown in a fighter pilot plane reaching 7 gs.You get to sit this test a limited number of times(i think it was 5 times)without throwing up after the ride and if you don't survive all 5 times your out ,theres no next time.I also heard the probability was like 3 in 7 of surviving the ride

Yeah they're really going to put you through ages of work and study at great cost to yourself and themselves, just to kick 4 in 7 applicants right at the very end.
If this test exists at all, don't you think they would put it at the beginning.
My goodness you didn't put much thought into that post.

 

[ioniser]

Yeah they're really going to put you through ages of work and study at great cost to yourself and themselves, just to kick 4 in 7 applicants right at the very end.
If this test exists at all, don't you think they would put it at the beginning.
My goodness you didn't put much thought into that post.

actually if you fail you are qualified to do other courses with a bit of extra training,i know this because i know people who have tryed it,he failed that last test and went onto to do aeronautical engineering and they obviously have you in the actual plane as one of the last tests for various reasons(do you know tha actual cost of operating one of those planes,you can go for a joy ride at a price of 5-6 grand for a 20 min ride,keeping in mind these planes are worth up to 56 mil each and the maintence of these planes,if it was one of the first tests people would only do this test for the fun of being in the plane)

so how about you think before you post

 

[IceBreaker]

do you have to have 20/20 vision?

 

[sikeveo]

yep............

 

[Aussie.rock]

i want to go to ADFA and do a aeronautic degree. Im doing year 12 at the moment and am doing 3unit maths, physics, chemistry, english and religion(go to a catholic school). I dont know what U.A.I i need to do this course. Can anyone help me please????

 

[Wooz]

i want to go to ADFA and do a aeronautic degree. Im doing year 12 at the moment and am doing 3unit maths, physics, chemistry, english and religion(go to a catholic school). I dont know what U.A.I i need to do this course. Can anyone help me please????

Aeronautic degree i think u mean aeronautical engineering? right the uai for AFDA is 85 check: www.defencejobs.gov.au

 

[Rekkusu]

Most ADFA Jobs require about 80+ for UAI + Selection Criteria.

Geez, though after completing all those degrees, then staying for like a minimum of 11 years is almost like throwing your life away.

I mean, it's even worser than doing Medicine, then continuing into a specialised degree...

 

[sikeveo]

Most ADFA Jobs require about 80+ for UAI + Selection Criteria.

Geez, though after completing all those degrees, then staying for like a minimum of 11 years is almost like throwing your life away.

I mean, it's even worser than doing Medicine, then continuing into a specialised degree...

If you enjoy something I dont see how you are throwing your life away. Besides, its not 11 years. It's x+1 years, where x is the time you have been sponsored for.

No degree is 'worser' than another