Anyone do martial arts? (4 Viewers)

[mike 1989]

i've done Go-Gyu-Ru for 3 years and 7 years in another style.
I agree a kata is only a set of movements that can be used. However the applications of kata are those that one would use in a fight. Not the kata themselves.

 

[Chuc]

Even though forms in (Chinese) martial arts are based on martial techniques, the movements might not always be identical to how the techniques they symbolize would work when applied in actual combat. This is due to the way many forms have been elaborated: on the one hand to provide better combat preparedness, and on the other hand, to look more aesthetic. One easily understood manifestation of this tendency toward elaborations that go beyond what most often might be used in combat is the inclusion of lower stances and higher kicks. The regular practice of techniques while using lower stances both adds strength to the same techniques when used with higher stances, and also facilitates using the same techniques in the lower stances when the realities of combat make doing so the most appropriate choice.

Taken from wiki, really havn't got a better explaination myself..

Anyway, I primarily work in Northern Shaolin forms like Hongquan and Strong-back, and I've done the standard and old competition forms for the Staff (gun). It's really fun butterfly-kicking with one of them swinging around ^^ Also coincidentally Kilik's (Soul Calibur) weapon exhibition form is the old competition form! Woot.

Also I've taken Yang-style Taijiquan since Year 9, and it's made all the difference to me, both in stress control, sheer internal strength and power generation (the one-inch-punch is purely an exaggeration). Plus if with continued practise, I hope to be running around ovals at 90 =D

 

[natster988]

karate - Go-Kan-Ryu. I'm amazed how many people do it! but then again, it is a pretty popular form of karate...

 

[Royalte]

I did Hap Ki Do when i was living in Sydney but now that ive had to move to Wagga for uni i dont do it anymore. When i finish my degree ill prob move back and get into it again.

 

[Ennaybur]

whats that like?

 

[TaEkWoNdObArBiE]

Taekwondo.

Clearly.

xx

 

[Optophobia]

karate - Go-Kan-Ryu. I'm amazed how many people do it! but then again, it is a pretty popular form of karate...

It's a bullshit martial art. I did it for a while, it is totally inadequate for any real life application. It is so commercialised it isn't funny. It's good for a work out, but that's about all.

 

[davidkedz]

I used to do Judo, Kendo and I've also done a bit of Karate here and there. However, the HSC hiatus really threw me off my routine.

At the present time, I've only maintained my training with weapons, primarily the katana, bo and sai.

 

[Lindaya]

1) - It takes fully grown adults longer.
2) - Black belt is one thing. 2nd dan black belt is another thing. Either way, he couldn't get it from year 7 to year 12.

lol i just returned to this thread cos i forgot my username... from 1st dan to 2nd dan usually takes 2 years, but i did it in 1 cos my teacher thought i was ready after i learnt a lot after a korean training camp where i improved my techniques in 2 universities.. its all legit man. My teacher is chun suk suh 9th dan, and vice president of taekwondo australia.. it also took quicker because i double graded a couple of times :S

 

[stanli]

boxing..
does wonders fitnesss.
no its not dynamick or practical..buteveryone knows no martial art will help u in a street ight cause chances r..u'll get poled:mad1:

 

[Mutationis]

It's a bullshit martial art. I did it for a while, it is totally inadequate for any real life application. It is so commercialised it isn't funny. It's good for a work out, but that's about all.

just curious to know what about GKR makes you say that

 

[Gilbert1]

Tae-Kwon-Do Just started again recently.

 

[Optophobia]

just curious to know what about GKR makes you say that

So many people go. To get to a new level, you have to memorise a pattern. This is stupid and has no real life application. GKR is basically dancing. You learn choreographed patterns and that's all. There's no sporadic activities (except for sparing - which is so unlike real life situations it's unfunny). It has a lack of pressure points, take downs.. Jesus christ, read over what i've already said in this thread.. 4 times?

 

[Mutationis]

So many people go. To get to a new level, you have to memorise a pattern. This is stupid and has no real life application. GKR is basically dancing. You learn choreographed patterns and that's all. There's no sporadic activities (except for sparing - which is so unlike real life situations it's unfunny). It has a lack of pressure points, take downs.. Jesus christ, read over what i've already said in this thread.. 4 times?

well you've only posted under this username twice in this thread so i assumed that the comments of "Anti-Mathmite" were someone else's (am i now right in assuming that's you?). there's no need to get offended.

as for the issue of Karate not having having a "real life application"? i feel sorry for you that you only think Martial Arts can have some value if it teaches you to fight. you've missed the (in my opinion) most important thing: the mental aspect of Martial Arts. the focus, discipline and respect for others that you learn is most definately applicable to "real life".... and we don't spar in long fighting stance...

 

[goony]

I just picked up wing chun again after a bit of a hiatus last year. I think i'll try to keep going with it during uni this year (really long break on wednesday means i can do a few sessions inbetween lectures). Anyone here heard of/trained in Drunken Fists (i think it's a style of wushu)? I've always wanted to have a go at that.

edit: I remember doing Tae-Kwon-Do ages and ages ago, and i did some martial arts thing at school for a couple of weeks (i forget what it was called, but it was more of an 'art' form rather than something more practial).

 

[Premiumness]

Hi there^^
I did the siu lam si wush at the wush institute in tagou when I live in the back in china! I miss it where we did the 6hr work hard on the move and run but here it not that long only for short 1 and the 2 hour! Is easy here but harder there but maybe more cheaper there for the long time because of the economics difference with the money. In australia they have the white man who teach the wushu that you call kung fu and the white man not as good as my chinese man for teaching and learning because not as original as it was before back in china! I visit the shaolin temple back in henan and they show the good move because they original maker of it!

 

[Gekigengar]

i have only just started not long ago say about a year..

im learing the Houng kun.
its.. intresting.. tiring...

but what i love most is the chinese lion

heheh oh soo entertaining..

i am currently learing the doa ( broadsword) and the gim ( straight sword) very intresting.... even with blunt training swords..

What i really want to master is the three sectional staff

 

[Optophobia]

In australia they have the white man who teach the wushu that you call kung fu and the white man not as good as my chinese man for teaching and learning because not as original as it was before back in china! I visit the shaolin temple back in henan and they show the good move because they original maker of it!

Of course. All martial arts in Australia have been learnt from somebody else, who learnt it off somebody else, who learnt it off somebody else.. Who learnt it off someone who barely spoke any English. So it's bound to lose its originality.. Like in the game 'Chinese Whispers'.

Good Australian teachers spend time in the country where the martial art originated, even if they aren't Chinese, Korean etc.

 

[Optophobia]

as for the issue of Karate not having having a "real life application"? i feel sorry for you that you only think Martial Arts can have some value if it teaches you to fight. you've missed the (in my opinion) most important thing: the mental aspect of Martial Arts. the focus, discipline and respect for others that you learn is most definately applicable to "real life"

If i wanted that, i would do tai-chi.

.... and we don't spar in long fighting stance...

And what you do in sparring is not what you learn when you're standing in line. When you do your stupid head or stomach level punch, bringing the fist from the waist up in to the head.. you can't do that in sparing. Sparing is sporadic and relies very little on anything that you learn in Karate. Besides, it is very 'contained' and assumes that people don't fight dirty; they do.

A person who does Karate (at any level) would have no chance against a Brazilian Ju-Jitsu, Aikido, Tae Kwon Do practitioner or otherwise. Karate has no take downs, no joint locks, no pressure points or throws. It simply has ambiguous strike methods, which is why it's an outdated martial art (especially GKR, which is commercialized).

Karate comes from a time when people stood still when they fought. They then observed animals (cranes, praying mantis etc) and built upon this basic premise that karate has.

 

[Mutationis]

Karate has no take downs, no joint locks, no pressure points or throws. It simply has ambiguous strike methods, which is why it's an outdated martial art

that's where Kata comes in. that's where all the stuff you mention is contained. and before you come back saying that it's not, look up the Bunkai for the Katas and tell me what you find. here's a starting point for you:

http://www.iainabernethy.com/articles/article_home.asp

do some research before you make any more claims.