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Re: This made me sick

yeah, me too. nobody should have been arrested.

victimless crime if you ask me.
Victimless in that no-one is physically hurt through the act of watching the porn, but the child abuse is extended by the distribution of the porn. Plus, there's that whole supply and demand thing. More people watching child porn = more people making child porn.
 

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Why the hell would anyone rape an 8 year old, let alone watch it happen, 1st hand, second hand or otherwise???

surely there are some sick people in this country
 

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Victimless in that no-one is physically hurt through the act of watching the porn, but the child abuse is extended by the distribution of the porn. Plus, there's that whole supply and demand thing. More people watching child porn = more people making child porn.
but the people who bang children probably would do anyway even if there isn't a camera in the room.
 

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I'm sure many people on this board have seen horrific images of people being beheaded, and brutally murdered in various ways.

Isn't this just as sick, and worthy of punishment, as watching child porn? Why/Why not?
Its not the same thing.
I've never been raped but i know a person who has been.
Personally, I think, after seeing the effects that its had on one person,some girls would rather be dead then be defiled that way (opinion based on observation). It leaves an emotional scar on the victim and by watching/downloading a video of an 8 year old girl getting raped this kind of behaviour is being encouraged.
What happens if someone downloads the video to indulge in a fantasy, then after awhile of watching they decide they'd better like to act out their fantasy.
It is sick.
It's not a joke.
Some people are creeps who deserve to be thrown in jail.
~Sorry for my extremely serious take on this, but like i said, i know someone who this has happened to.
 

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I basically agree with the above. Although not that watching such material will cause people to behave in this way, do you have any evidence for this.

My question was, how is this any different to watching the equally horrific crime of murder?

Why should one be considered more acceptable than the other.
I'm not saying that veiwing this material is the cause of it originating, i'm just saying that by watching things like this it could be seen as encouragement to the people who film these things and could possibly affect the behaviour patterns of other people by desensitising them to what it is they are watching? I can't really say if it will or wont. I myself do not know why people do these things.
Well, I guess i don't really have anything to back up my argument, so i'll settle for:
They're both equally horrific things, neither of which should be veiwed for entertainment. The world would be a much safer place without the sick people who commit these horrendous acts.
~Sorry, my argument is mostly based on opinion.
 

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I basically agree with the above. Although not that watching such material will cause people to behave in this way, do you have any evidence for this.

My question was, how is this any different to watching the equally horrific crime of murder?

Why should one be considered more acceptable than the other.
people would respond with a "because children are innocent etc.". a more fitting question is: how is this any different to watching a video of babies being slaughtered?
 

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So if I watch child porn right now the government can arrest me?

BBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

epic fucking fail.

And to all those who support such a fucked up law. Fuck you fucking stupid fucks.
 

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I'm not saying that veiwing this material is the cause of it originating, i'm just saying that by watching things like this it could be seen as encouragement to the people who film these things and could possibly affect the behaviour patterns of other people by desensitising them to what it is they are watching? I can't really say if it will or wont. I myself do not know why people do these things.
Well, I guess i don't really have anything to back up my argument, so i'll settle for:
They're both equally horrific things, neither of which should be veiwed for entertainment. The world would be a much safer place without the sick people who commit these horrendous acts.
~Sorry, my argument is mostly based on opinion.
Fucking retard. Go live in soviet Russia or Saudi Arabia.
 

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I think pedophiles are supposed to be worse than murderers because the former leaves the victims life ruined, while the latter leaves the victim with no life. Can't suffer if you're dead.
 

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Anyone that defends this preposterous law does not believe in freedom. period.
 

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I think pedophiles are supposed to be worse than murderers because the former leaves the victims life ruined, while the latter leaves the victim with no life. Can't suffer if you're dead.
tbh, i don't think people suffer for their entire lives after being molested. i mean, it's human nature to just 'get over things'. sure, it'll remain in the back of your mind, but it doesn't necessarily have to affect you to the extent where you can't live a normal life.

people lose parents in horrible ways and get over it.
 

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Fucking retard. Go live in soviet Russia or Saudi Arabia.
*rolls eyes*
I'm not saying you have to share my opinion.
Its my personal belief and i am just stating it >.>

As for Pedo's V Murderers..
They both make people suffer, no one can really say if one is worse then the other i guess. It just depends on the experiences and influences of different people as to what they think is the more disturbed act.

People who support this law are not against our freedom.
The law places certain restrictions on society so that we will not descend into anarchy ;D
But seriously, if watching things like this was legal then that would mean that the government would be sort of condoning it. I'm sure many people would prefer this "freedom" be not theirs to begin with rather then have a government who does not even attempt to stop the spread of this material.
 

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I'm sure many people on this board have seen horrific images of people being beheaded, and brutally murdered in various ways.

Isn't this just as sick, and worthy of punishment, as watching child porn? Why/Why not?
Unlike the other rant I quite get where you're coming from.

Your question was why is one worthy of punshment and the other not? Well contrary to what you might think it's not due to a religious/ancient stigma being placed on sex and so therefore crimes involving sex become worse some how. What makes the two different is that there are those who derive "pleasure" from the suffering of others in particular children being sexually assaulted, and so as that is inhumane by it's very nature. That one human would enjoy watching another suffer. It is a crime.

There is no denying that it is thoughtcrime. But considering I personally agree with a loss of liberty in order to form society, I agree with it fully. The sexualisation of youth in general is criminal and devoids children of their innocence. Which is why I oppose the Lady Gaga's and Paris Hilton's which children are embracing as role models.
 

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tbh, i don't think people suffer for their entire lives after being molested. i mean, it's human nature to just 'get over things'. sure, it'll remain in the back of your mind, but it doesn't necessarily have to affect you to the extent where you can't live a normal life.

people lose parents in horrible ways and get over it.
I think it would depend on the extent of the abuse.
 

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What makes the two different is that there are those who derive "pleasure" from the suffering of others in particular children being sexually assaulted, and so as that is inhumane by it's very nature. That one human would enjoy watching another suffer. It is a crime.
So the government's job is to define what is pleasure and then go out and regulate it? And by regulation i mean coerce the populous to come in line with the state bureaucracy's definition of what is "pleasure"? This is tyranny.

There is no denying that it is thoughtcrime. But considering I personally agree with a loss of liberty in order to form society, I agree with it fully. The sexualisation of youth in general is criminal and devoids children of their innocence. Which is why I oppose the Lady Gaga's and Paris Hilton's which children are embracing as role models.
Dont know to laugh or cry.
 
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So the govenment's job is to define what is pleasure and then go out and regulate it?
Don't get your knickers in a bunch. Society controls government, not vice versa. So therefore society as a whole has that ability yes.

And by regulation i mean coerce the populous to come in line with the state bureaucracy's definition of what is "pleasure"? This is tyranny.
Awesome. I didn't know I supported tyranny. brb oppressing the masses. Oh wait the masses would rather lynch these creeps. It's me, the tyrant who keeps the masses in check. The same masses who would otherwise put these creeps heads on sticks as a punishment. The tyrant who preserves society.

Dont know to laugh or cry.
Those aren't really conscious decisions.

There is no such thing as societies. Only individuals.
Individuals comprise society. There is no society without individuals.

Stop using it as a reason to enforce tyranny.
Just try and stop me.
 
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