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USYD and Macq contact hours are EXTREMELY different.

I had 14 first year. My brother in a law degree at mq had only 11.
so if u wanna go by contact hours then macq has hardly any, hence why they're known as "club macq" lol they dont have many ocntact hours at all. it's all home-based.
 

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I'm so glad I put ba edu/ arts down as my second choice. Still gives me the flexibility I want in an arts degree.. YAY! Let's keep fingers crossed.!
 

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wooh hoo! i got my first pref B Education(humanities and social sciences)/ B Arts.

who will i see next yr!?
 

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This is my first preference for when it's my turn to enrol in uni. However I have a q. I'm interested in teaching economics only, and am not interetsed in the other teaching subjects AT ALL. I wouldn't mind business studies or commerce but how come there isn't any? Any other courses which offers economics, business studies and/or commerce?

And if I choose to study French for the arts part, do I HAVE to teach it? Cos I plan on doing it pureply out of interest.

And is it true if you choose to do economics, your economics classes are with the people that choose to do economics? o_O

Sorry about all my questions, I'm just a very confused child! Hope someone can help :) Thanks!!
 

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Re: Bachelor of Education (Secondary: Humanities and Social Sciences)/Bachelor of Art

Another noob q,

I understand that you study units for your BA that correspond to the subjects (or
subject) that you wish to teach. I'd want to teach Economics/Commerce and History, so does that mean I could major in Political Economy and History for the BA? Or Major in PE and minor in History?

Does anyone here have Economics/Commerce as their major teaching subject? What units do you do in your BA for this?

Thanks!!

Re sasa - I think Economics and Commerce are bundled together as one teaching area anyway, but I don't know what the go is with Business Studies. I think it may also be an offshoot of Economics/Commerce, as the Commerce teacher at my HS taught business also, and had Geo as his minor subject. It might be that you can choose to specialise in either two of the three (Eco, BS and Commerce). Just speculating here though. If anyone knows, thanks in advance!
 
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Re: Bachelor of Education (Secondary: Humanities and Social Sciences)/Bachelor of Art

I'm thinking of transfering to BEd/arts but not sure if its worth it...because i probably need to spend an extra year at uni to complete the education bit of the degree since ive already completed one full year of B arts @ usyd.

anyone know who i can talk to to get some solid info? and would anyone know if i need to apply through UAC or not? the usyd website isnt helping at all...
 

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Re: Bachelor of Education (Secondary: Humanities and Social Sciences)/Bachelor of Art

This year I plan to enrol to this course.

Though one question, the UAI cut-off dropped (again), is that supposed to worry me, or anyone doing it?
 

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el gwapo said:
This year I plan to enrol to this course.

Though one question, the UAI cut-off dropped (again), is that supposed to worry me, or anyone doing it?
The cut-off only dropped 1 or 2 points from what I can tell. There is always the late offer round, for more people to get in.

Cut offs are only indicative to course popularity through supply and demand. The UAI score is not an indication of merit in any shape, way or form.

I am enrolling this year, and I am rather looking forward to it. I will be leaning heavily towards History in my choice of Arts subjects.
 

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I'll be there even if the cut off drops to like 60.
I seriously couldn't care less.

I'm planning to do english and history.
Cause I'm geeky like that etcetc.

For everyone doing/have done this course,
does the credit points system allow me to take three art classes per semester?

I've been looking at the credit points etcetc to get ready for enrolment and it seems like I can only take the two compulsory education classes, one class which I'll major in teaching and just another random class?

 

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jayadore said:
I'll be there even if the cut off drops to like 60.
I seriously couldn't care less.

I'm planning to do english and history.
Cause I'm geeky like that etcetc.

For everyone doing/have done this course,
does the credit points system allow me to take three art classes per semester?

Yes. First year have two semesters, each semester will be one education class, with three arts units.

I've been looking at the credit points etcetc to get ready for enrolment and it seems like I can only take the two compulsory education classes, one class which I'll major in teaching and just another random class?
I wouldn't use your arts units for randomness....

You need 12 junior units of an arts subject to prequisite for a 200 Level senior year subjects.

You need 12 senior units of an arts subject to prequisite for a curriculum unit - for example

EDSE3040 Teaching History 1

Credit points: 6 Teacher/Coordinator: Carmel Fahey, Dr Tim Allender Session: Semester 1b Classes: 4 hours/week Prerequisites: 48 credit pts including 24 credit pts of Education and 12 Senior credit pts of History Assessment: Task 1- Why teach history? - 30%; Task 2- Devising a lesson plan - 20%; Task 3 - Devising a sequence of four lessons - 30%; Task 4 - questioning in history - 20%
This unit aims to prepare History Curriculum students in the theory and practice of teaching history in the secondary school. The unit draws on current research, thinking and practice in the field of history education, and relates these understandings to the realities and varying contexts of history teachers' work and instruction.

EDSE3058 Teaching History 2

Credit points: 6 Teacher/Coordinator: Carmel Fahey, Dr Tim Allender Session: Semester 2 Classes: 4 hours/week (36 hours) Prerequisites: EDSE3040 plus 12 senior credit points of History. Assessment: Assessment will be based on two pieces of work. The first focuses on peer teaching - 30%. The second assessment task requires students to collaboratively develop teaching and learning strategies around a particular approach to history teaching and learning - 70%
This Unit of Study aims to prepare History students to acquire the knowledge, skills and understandings necessary to implement the Years 7 - 10 History Syllabus, Board of Studies, NSW. The unit focuses specifically on developing a range of approaches to history teaching and learning across age and ability groups.
So do 2 units of relevant arts if you wish to teach one subject
4 to teach two subjects
and use all the first year arts units if you wish to teach three
 
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44Ronin said:
I wouldn't use your arts units for randomness....
Sorry about that. I think my wording gave you the wrong impression of what I meant. :) I meant "random" as in a different class I didn't want to teach but was interested in.

44Ronin said:
So do 2 units of relevant arts if you wish to teach one subject
4 to teach two subjects
and use all the first year arts units if you wish to teach three
Yeps! Okay. I understand know.

Just one more question,
if there's a class I'll like to take, but it's not being held in the first semester and only in the second, does that mean I can only take that class in the 2nd semester?
 

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i suppose so.

apparently we have to do 4 units of "teaching" subjects i.e. English or History in our selection of arts units. That is, 4 in the 8 units we pick this year.

now whether that is 2 and 2 each semester, or if you can do 1 and 3, 3 and 1, is not exactly sure, at least for a future student like myself. maybe some expert analysis can help.
 

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Is everyone doing this course enrolling on Friday at USyd?
I keep feeling like I've got the date wrong because heaps of my friends are doing pharmacy/etc and have already enrolled.
:cool:



I have too many questions.
Sorry! :)
 

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jayadore said:
Is everyone doing this course enrolling on Friday at USyd?
I keep feeling like I've got the date wrong because heaps of my friends are doing pharmacy/etc and have already enrolled.
:cool:



I have too many questions.
Sorry! :)
Yep :) This Friday!
Is it dorky that I'm excited just for enrollment?.. :D


Haha I think I've answered my own question.
 

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Re: Bachelor of Education (Secondary: Humanities and Social Sciences)/Bachelor of Art

I enrolled, and it was TEH WIN.
 

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Me too.
It took me less than an hour I think.

Did anyone else see the DUCK SQUAD tshirt guy?
He was funny.
 

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jayadore said:
Me too.
It took me less than an hour I think.

Did anyone else see the DUCK SQUAD tshirt guy?
He was funny.
Yeah, I guess so. I was the one wearing a khaki shirt and cargo pants.

:ninja:
 

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jayadore said:
Me too.
It took me less than an hour I think.

Did anyone else see the DUCK SQUAD tshirt guy?
He was funny.
wow, that was quick. mine took about 2 hours. lines weren't too bad, filling out wasn't too bad, sucks for those people who rocked up and didn't know what to fill out for units. :read: around the website works i tell you.


is it just me or did this course have a lot of female enrollees?
 

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