Boat People (4 Viewers)

[spell check]

you know i was reading up on birds the other day and, apparently, they can fly across borders and stuff? did you know this? wow.

 

[Tarni1]

Firstly, Australia does show empathy and does share its freedom with others of this world! Dont distort the facts here, there are correct avenues of entering this country, and doing so via a boat isnt one of them. This isnt only illegal and stupid (considering the boats they go on) its a substantial security risk to Australia.....terroritsts could be on board, or more concerning, potentially sick indiviuduals may be on boad along with animals suffering from contagious diseases.....ie Bird Flu (If you watched 60mins yesterday, perfect eg). Furthermore, Australia does keep a certain amount of these boat people, so I think empathy is being showed. And on top of this all, Australia is pumping billions of dollars into their home countries

And your reference to the white Australia policy is laughable, considering a large portion of non-white inidividuals live in Australia now. The issue at hand isnt what nationality they are, its how they are entering our nation. They avoid the usual screening process through immigration beacuse no doubt alot of them are undesirable - and as someone mentioned previously, the process invovles choosing people who will be beneficial to society, not become bums. I will however say that in some circumstances our immigration department is ruthless, I remember watching this program about immigration and they deported some guy because he had a visa that did not let him work....like come on, if the guys working, good on him, at least he isnt buming off the government! (The argument against this may be that hes taking a job away from an Aussie, well I disagree, if a guy who barely speaks english can get a job why cant someone living in the slums find a job- because ther bludges, having 5 kids and blugding off the govt) Just my opinion on that matter.

BTW, dont get me wrong, Im aware that alot of them have faced harships etc, but for our own security 'you have to be cruel to be kind'. Besides, Australia isnt the only nation in the pacific..maybe the only one that easily accessible by boat, but thats about it

..chickens on board? to survive on? I don't belive you know what you are talking about...
and terrorists would not risk their lives on leaky boats..most people coming to australia are proved to be genuine refugees
60 minutes/todaytonight etc are all sensationalist shows which distort the truth..and in doing so the vunerable which exist in the aus society believe the truth they present. If your 'sources' which make up your opinions on refugees are based on 60 minutes, well then, I think that's enough said.
Our society is becoming based on fear eg howard winning the election on the overboard crisis (untrue), the war (what WOMD?!), terrorist laws (targeting certain groups, taking away our rights) etc This fear is generated by the Liberals and others; it is up to us to find the truth behind the lies.
you may laugh at my comment about the white aus policy, however it is not so ridiculous
..I wouldn't take Mr. Martin's items too seriously if I were you..

 

[erawamai]

..chickens on board? to survive on? I don't belive you know what you are talking about...
and terrorists would not risk their lives on leaky boats..most people coming to australia are proved to be genuine refugees
60 minutes/todaytonight etc are all sensationalist shows which distort the truth..and in doing so the vunerable which exist in the aus society believe the truth they present. If your 'sources' which make up your opinions on refugees are based on 60 minutes, well then, I think that's enough said.
Our society is becoming based on fear eg howard winning the election on the overboard crisis (untrue), the war (what WOMD?!), terrorist laws (targeting certain groups, taking away our rights) etc This fear is generated by the Liberals and others; it is up to us to find the truth behind the lies.
you may laugh at my comment about the white aus policy, however it is not so ridiculous
..I wouldn't take Mr. Martin's items too seriously if I were you..

Tarni you don't go to galston high do you?

 

[Tarni1]

Tarni you don't go to galston high do you?

No I don't

 

[Tarni1]

"Overboard crisis"? That's quite a funny phrase, because it's used by left wing numb skulls to try to say "oh my god we were deceived". Even if "kids" weren't thrown over board, we still don't want them here..

define 'we' and they're not TRYING to say something, they're stating it was a deception..

 

[gerhard]

there are correct avenues of entering this country, and doing so via a boat isnt one of them

see, this is wrong.


If you are a refugee, international law says you are allowed to enter another country by any means possible.

 

[loquasagacious]

I know respect for the individual, not torturing people it's all such a drag...

 

[erawamai]

International law says a lot of things. All of it is bullshit.

Really? You don't believe you are entitled to anything at all found in the ICCPR?

...and that everything found in the convention on the rights of the child is crap?

Recognizing that the child, for the full and harmonious development of his or her personality, should grow up in a family environment, in an atmosphere of happiness, love and understanding

You don't agree that children should be happy and grow up in a loving environment?

1. States Parties shall use their best efforts to ensure recognition of the principle that both parents have common responsibilities for the upbringing and development of the child. Parents or, as the case may be, legal guardians, have the primary responsibility for the upbringing and development of the child. The best interests of the child will be their basic concern.

You don't agree?

1. States Parties agree that the education of the child shall be directed to:

(a) The development of the child's personality, talents and mental and physical abilities to their fullest potential;

You don't agree with childrens talents being encouraged?

 

[gerhard]

oh, and apparently australia needs, or will need, more unskilled workers.

edit; hang on looking for sauce

 

[Capitalist Pig]

They should all be shot on sight.

 

[walrusbear]

Disease is not a diversion at all. Illegal refugees come to Australia with the intetion of not being caught...how many might reach land and converge within the general populous? And the major threat is the poultry they have on board, all it takes is one animal to have a disease like Bird Flu, and a local animal coming in contact with it and then......................................................

can some a law student possibly comment on this, but i was under the impression that being a refugee IS legal. i thought the legitimate status of a refugee was discerned during the screening process...

 

[walrusbear]

No.. just sent away. It's a fairly good indicator of the way Australians feel about these kinds of people. The quim isn't that they are "refugees" or "illegal immigrants"..

It's that we don't want their kind there.. and we are will to use what little power we have to get them to go away.... And we still fail, and are STILL criticized.

The left should fear that one day the average Australian will have enough of its rubbish, and will schizophrenically decapitate its being. We see all the time, the poisonous fruits emitted from its tree. One day, its trunk shall be axed.

those wacky lefties!

 

[spell check]

those wacky lefties!

them and their peace and love

THEY MUST BE STOPPED!

 

[walrusbear]

them and their peace and love

THEY MUST BE STOPPED!

yeah the majority will be able to stamp out their silly belief in human rights
much like a tree and poisoned fruit and... axes....

 

[spell check]

we can't let their fantasies of united global society and world cooperation get in the way of the war and insecurity

their ideal world MUST BE STOPPED! REALISM MUST RUN FREE WITH BLOOD AND FLAMES

THE WHITE MAN MARCHES ON

100 YEARS OF AUSTRALIAN VALUES THAT CAME FROM MIGRANTS ANYWAY MUST BE PROTECTED

 

[Jiga]

can some a law student possibly comment on this, but i was under the impression that being a refugee IS legal.

My bad, I meant have said 'illegal immigrants'

you know i was reading up on birds the other day and, apparently, they can fly across borders and stuff? did you know this? wow.

You know that bird specialists have said that none of Australias migratory birds should have got into contact with any birds in infected areas? Did you know this? wow.

chickens on board? to survive on? I don't belive you know what you are talking about...

Im sorry, they survive on thin air and drink from the seas plentiful bounty of water. Chickens are a cheap, long lasting resource, and low maintainence, numerous sources have shown that they use them to. This is a disease threat, plain and simple. Whether you want to allow the bird flu into Australia so the refugees feel nice or want to protect our nation from an outbreak of disease is up to you as an individual.

 

[spell check]

Fantasy is what it is.



The left is anything but peace and love.. Well when it comes to their treatment of white at least anyway.

REALISM IS THE ONLY ANSWER

hundreds of years of war and violence between nations and the ignoring of conflict within nations and oppression can't be wrong

the white man's position as global leader has to be upheld!

i think you'll find the very definition of the 'left' pertains to their economic view which tends to separate people into class groups and ignore race, religion or nationality

 

[arooshika...]

ive read a poem on boat people...i think it was called 'have you heard a baby crying in the middle of an ocean?' or something like that...pretty sad

anyways i dont think they should be in detention centres because all they want is freedom, they can be isolated for awhile to get everything sorted out but detention centres are just going to far

 

[walrusbear]

yeah it seems the government puts a shitload more effort into defending their draconian measures than actually screening refugees

 

[spell check]

draconian measures have more political value