Many years ago, there wasnt even a UAI (how cute-it was TER back then.... if a mark was required at all. You are talking back before HECS etc when entry was based upon "motivation').Originally posted by JohnButler
Of course there are 'bad' teachers around...
The average UAI to enter was in the 40's and 50's many years ago...and many of the older teachers didnt do a 3 to 4 yr structured course where they had to learn everything about teaching techniques and the learning process (things like motivation) plus their specialisation. Then you have to take into account experience, support and whether or not the teacher actually likes their job.
In line with 'the times' the UAI mark is quite high now and most education courses at many uni's are pretty full on (believe me I, I'm doing one now).
For every 'bad' teacher there are plently of excellent ones.
Originally posted by Sset561986
one that springs to mind - well his lessons were based on him retelling his 'real life' UFO experience - enough said
Can understand the nature of thread I just dont see the "point" (+ I dont see that anyone has the right to criticise and generalise about another person)...... it has the potential to get very personal or general which (despite what you may think or say) is wrong (and not justified - look at some of the posts already here.... "there is no need for teachers" etc)Originally posted by Sarah168
we're not bagging out education and teachers in general, we're just dissing the really really awful ones....THAT is justified i think
To be honest, no I dont gossip about any of my students (unless I'm proud of what they have done and Im showing them off to others).Originally posted by Sarah168
yeah, some goods point u brought up, but they are concerning only the minority of ppl ignorant enough to believe that there is no need for teachers (the eng spelling mistake is a good one :rofl: )
but yeah, the majority of us respect our teachers (i hope so at least), we're simply telling anecdotes of the bad ones...there are particularly bad students just as there are particularly bad teachers and dont lie and say u dont gossip about (or at least talk about) nightmare students in those secret staffrooms of yours lol
Nearly all the teachers (have full timed at 3 schools) I know cant be bothered to bitch constantly about their PIA's (unless its justified-I was once pinched on the bum by a student when walking through the hallway and I felt so 'volilated'-yes, I know. How dramatic but its true- that I had to talk about it). I mean, why complain about a 15 or 16 year old (yr 9/10). They are idiots- get on with it.Originally posted by Sarah168
hmmm i have teachers talking about me...it gets around (the comments vary from good to bad though )...im sure there are only certain teachers that do it though...
do teachers really do what ur saying though? if it is true then i must say that to my cynical mind, im quite surprised
Edit: i used the word "though" alot, now that i re read my post ..ah well
I had some shit teachers and some great ones -------Originally posted by snapperhead
Nearly all the teachers (have full timed at 3 schools) I know cant be bothered to bitch constantly about their PIA's (unless its justified-I was once pinched on the bum by a student when walking through the hallway and I felt so 'volilated'-yes, I know. How dramatic but its true- that I had to talk about it). I mean, why complain about a 15 or 16 year old (yr 9/10). They are idiots- get on with it.
Usually only bring PIA's up when there is a parent interview or the equivalent happening and we have to talk about it- that or we have to fill in disciplinary forms and have describe in huge detail stuff.......
To be honest, I hardly hear staff complaining constantly about kids (unless they are really ticked off and need to talk about it and usually its quite subjective as they are preping for discipinary issues) as its considered unprofessional and could be subjective to litigation/disciplinary responses....... ie its not worth it!
I hope I am reading this wrong..I should be getting a band 4 and less to teach HSC by your reckoning??Originally posted by Snapwizard
I rekcon that all teachers have to do te HSC with the students and if they can get a band 6 or high band 5 in the subjects that they teach, then they really shouldnt be teaching it!!
Your a teacher, do ya rekcon that this is fair----
This is the same in every field . Have to disagree with you here (though if I can big note myself, I fit into your description of raisng both ranks and marks-Yes, i am that good..). Experience and more importantly, loyalty (especially in education where the pay and more to the point, the working conditions are crap in comparison to other white collar jobs) should be rewarded.Teachers get paid more if they have been working longer but I reckon they should be paid more for performance, if you can raise the average or just ranks for your students compaired to the rest of the school then you derserve more!!