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Do we read Frankenstein as a warning of the dangers of 21st century science? (1 Viewer)

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Well, do we?

And is it more so of a warning than in the 19th century?

(Consider cloning, abortion, postmodern values etc.)
 
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The question is really 'Do we read it?'

One of the most boring books of all time.

However, in answer to your actual question, although it was written in a 19th century context, the book does show uncanny foresight into 21st century issues in society such as the ones you have listed. It would be difficult to relate this to the author's purpose in writing the novel though.
 
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i watched the hallmark movie before i read it. it made it easier to read lol.
 

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If you put it into historical context, because of the influence the Romantic poets had over Shelley, it would make sense to say that Frankenstein is a reflection of the rejection of science that the Romantics valued. However, do you think that we still read Frankenstein as a warning today? Personally, I think it's a load of rubbish, and that we read Frankenstein as a ghost story, not a warning.
 

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If you put it into historical context, because of the influence the Romantic poets had over Shelley, it would make sense to say that Frankenstein is a reflection of the rejection of science that the Romantics valued. However, do you think that we still read Frankenstein as a warning today? Personally, I think it's a load of rubbish, and that we read Frankenstein as a ghost story, not a warning.
Well reading it as a ghost story and writing that in an essay won't get you very far in the HSC.

Essentially, it's a warning about the issues such as Cloning, Human Advancement etc. It's the same with Bladerunner. Both texts act as a warning to human society and by comparing both texts you'll see both of their relevance to today's society, hence the topic's name 'Texts in Time'.

Although they vary in time, their reflection of values is very similar and provide the same purpose - that being as a warning to humanity.
 

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Essentially, it's a warning about the issues such as Cloning, Human Advancement etc. It's the same with Bladerunner. Both texts act as a warning to human society and by comparing both texts you'll see both of their relevance to today's society, hence the topic's name 'Texts in Time'.

But don't you think that the "new ethic of science" contradicts said warning? Who honestly believes today that a consequence such as Frankenstein's monster will befall society from cloning sheep? Human cloning is illegal, and ethics in science was unheard of in Shelley's day.

Feminist critics say that Frankenstein is a warning against Victor's unnatural act of creation, rendering women unnecesary. The parallel to today, what with sperm banks and whatnot, is that women can now have children without men. However, again I fail to see the consequences in this and realistic aspects of the production of Frankenstein's monster from sperm banks.

It's fair enough to say that Frankenstein was read as a warning in the 19th century, but in today's world, where superstition has been mostly abolished, religion is becoming close to redundant (in the Western world at least) and technology has advanced to the point where ethics in science has become necessary, why would we read Frankenstein as a realistic warning, even more so than in the 19th century? Today it stands as nothing more than a ghost story, which was ironically Mary Shelley's initial and only intent.
 
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But don't you think that the "new ethic of science" contradicts said warning? Who honestly believes today that a consequence such as Frankenstein's monster will befall society from cloning sheep? Human cloning is illegal, and ethics in science was unheard of in Shelley's day.
It's easy to oversimplify. I could ask, for instance, if our modern day ethics go far enough; and it is very possible that by some strange dint human cloning may, in the future, become legal. Bear in mind that we still continue to push the brink of discovery and that we may put ourselves at risk this way. If one is to read it as a prophecy of scientific dangers, then we must look beyond the 'creating a monster' aspect to the more general category under which this stands, viz. that science has the potential to unleash uncontrollable, inexorable and destructive forces upon mankind. If one is to read the message in this general form, then it will always be relevant.

It's fair enough to say that Frankenstein was read as a warning in the 19th century, but in today's world, where superstition has been mostly abolished, religion is becoming close to redundant (in the Western world at least) and technology has advanced to the point where ethics in science has become necessary, why would we read Frankenstein as a realistic warning, even more so than in the 19th century? Today it stands as nothing more than a ghost story, which was ironically Mary Shelley's initial and only intent.
This is complete rubbish. Even in the Western world, religion worshippers still outnumber agnostics and atheists (though many are secularised). That makes religion far from redundant. And I fail to see how the progression of science has made ethics 'necessary' - the fact is they have always been necessary. You assume that people will be willing to follow them - we have no guarantee of that. You assert that the current state of the ethics themselves is fine. Many may disagree with you. Science has the potential to do great good things; and terrible destructive things. The message is far from dead.
 

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Ok. So redundant was definitely the wrong word to use -- a better one, perhaps, would be irrelevant. All Western governments are secularised. Religion is becoming increasingly irrelevant to the law, and with the affects of globalization, more people, especially the young, are being exposed to a wider spectrum of religious beliefs. The number of Australians who ticked the 'no religion' box has increased by 14% in the last 3 years, while 24% of 15-30 year olds indicate no connection with religious faith. This is still the minority, but the bigger picture must be seen. Are we playing God? It depends on your religion.

In South Korea, when biologist Hwang Woo Suk reported creating human embryonic stem cells through cloning, he did not apologize for offending religious taboos. He justified cloning by citing his Buddhist belief in recycling life through reincarnation. What does this have to do with Frankenstein? The Romantics believed in the divine connection to nature, and having said that, Shelley's 'Frankenstein' was undoubtedly a reflection not on the dangers of science, but on the consequences of the disrespect to nature.

The fluid boundary between death and life was a dominant theme in bio-medical science in the early 19th century, commonly leading to surgeons participating in the act of grave robbing. What’s more, during the time that Shelley wrote 'Frankenstein', life sciences reached a new peak with the study of teratology – the study of monsters or birth defects. French anatomist Etienne Geoffroy Saint-Hilaire conducted numerous experiments designed to produce monstrous births from animal embryos.

But I'm concentrating too much on the values of Romanticism and evading the "big picture". If we put 'Frankenstein' into historical context, there are several other interpretations for what exactly Shelley could have been protesting, from ignoring the metaphysical (and Victor's monster being an extended metaphor for his alter-ego -- a punishment for his neglecting to acknowledge spiritual existence) to idealistc bourgeois education and rejection of the aristocracy.

So why should we read 'Frankenstein' as a warning against the dangers of science if that wasn't even Shelley's intent? Indeed it was written first and foremost as a ghost story in a competition with other Romantic poets -- influenced by old German ghost tales. The truth is, the issue isn't whether or not people are willing to follow the ethics of science, because science isn't something that's widely available to the public. It took 277 tries to successfully clone Dolly the sheep, and it only lasted 6 years.

On the 27th of March, 2009, the British government released a “new ethics” handbook for scientists proceeding a discussion forum in Paris on the introduction of ethics in scientific training. It would be unthinkable to stop the advancements of science considering all its medical benefits, but all we can do is educate ourselves on how to use science responsibly. In Shelley's day biomedical science was highly innovative and questioned the issue of "playing God". But how is that still relevant to today, when the 'Big Bang' theory is widely accepted by the scientific community and Einstein's theory of relativity changed the face of science forever? Of course the issue is still relevant to the 21st century, but why should it still linger over our heads as warning, when the values of the early 19th century aren't applicable to today?
 

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