Do you believe Mary was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus Christ?? (1 Viewer)

[beve]

Source please? [Am interested]

Eh, Google "Human parthenogenesis" and see what you come up with. I haven't got time to get right into at the moment, Mod history in a couple of hours.

 

[Smile_Time351]

You guys are pretty dumb, hey.

'Science' can answer the 'how' questions, but it has no real place in the 'why' stuff. This is the domain, primarily, of theology and philosophy. All of you trying to answer a 'why' question with 'how' answers have rocks in yer head, srs.

Also, up yours HSC

To be fair, while your assessment of the plausibility of Science v. Religion does make sense, there is a how answer to this why question.

Why was there something in Mary's womb? Joseph. This forms a corollary with the how question:

How did the thing in Mary's womb get there? See also Joseph.

The argument you made works just as well in reverse, the only difference is my argument is more believeable because it has occured several billion times since.

 

[Iron]

If you at least accept the possibility that the universe was created by a higher being, out of nothing, then the Virgin birth isnt a huge leap. The bigger question is always 'why is there something, rather than nothing?'

 

[Kwayera]

I'll put it in perhaps more eloquent terms. It is technically possible that a woman may give birth to a child whilst still a virgin; however the child can only ever be a baby girl - due to the lack of a present Y chromosome.

Er, only through a whole lot of technological trickery. It's never been documented in mammals in the wild, and has only been induced in monkeys, mice and rabbits. As far as I know, they didn't have advanced genetics labs 2,000 years ago.

 

[Planck]

If you at least accept the possibility that the universe was created by a higher being, out of nothing, then the Virgin birth isnt a huge leap. The bigger question is always 'why is there something, rather than nothing?'

Bring out that old post hoc baby, she needs to ride.

 

[Kwayera]

If you at least accept the possibility that the universe was created by a higher being, out of nothing, then the Virgin birth isnt a huge leap. The bigger question is always 'why is there something, rather than nothing?'

Why not?

 

[Iron]

Why not?

Am I supposed to reply to this?

 

[Kwayera]

Am I supposed to reply to this?

Yep.

You asked the question. Why SHOULDN'T there be something rather than nothing?

 

[Iron]

Yep.

You asked the question. Why SHOULDN'T there be something rather than nothing?

It was rhetorical, guy. No one can hope to know with any 'scientific' certainty

 

[molmont]

Christopher Hitchens wisely said 'It is interesting how religions only think of the birth canal as a one-way street'.

 

[HalcyonSky]

i believe she was a virgin there were plenty of witnesses there and i think the bible states it several times

so there is evidence that she was a virgin, but none suggesting that she wasnt

.'. scientifically its more accurate to say she was a virgin? correct me if im wrong

 

[molmont]

You are wrong.

 

[HalcyonSky]

no im not you dont even have an argument against it

 

[molmont]

It is outrageous to consider the Bible a historical document, and could you please direct me as to whom these 'witnesses' you mention were, and maybe elaborate as to their credentials.

Furthermore, how can there possibly be 'witnesses' at a 'virgin birht'. Wouldn't they NOT HAVE WITNESSED the conception???

 

[HalcyonSky]

umm god was a witness for one, and he spoke through the people who wrote that she was a virgin

 

[molmont]

I think a far more interesting question than the virginity of Mary is why religion has such a strange fascination with the concept of immaculate conception. Jesus is merely one in a long list of supposed Gods or prophets conjured out of a virgin womb. Others include Horus, Mercury, Krishna, Attis, Perseus, Romulus and Genghis Khan.

 

[Iron]

I think a far more interesting question than the virginity of Mary is why religion has such a strange fascination with the concept of immaculate conception. Jesus is merely one in a long list of supposed Gods or prophets conjured out of a virgin womb. Others include Horus, Mercury, Krishna, Attis, Perseus, Romulus and Genghis Khan.

something from nothing

 

[HalcyonSky]

I think a far more interesting question than the virginity of Mary is why religion has such a strange fascination with the concept of immaculate conception. Jesus is merely one in a long list of supposed Gods or prophets conjured out of a virgin womb. Others include Horus, Mercury, Krishna, Attis, Perseus, Romulus and Genghis Khan.

they were all sons of the same god in the form of differing incantations appropriate for the relating culture / time period

so basically they were all jesus

 

[Iron]

Halcyon's pretty cool now, hey

 

[beve]

umm god was a witness for one, and he spoke through the people who wrote that she was a virgin