Do you support an increased refugee intake? (2 Viewers)

[Gary_Oak]

Again with the stereotypes. Your statistics are implying that Christians = white, and Muslims = POC. The uk = a stereotypical white nation, therefore there should be alarm bells ringing, when muslim children surpass the christain children in numbers? By over running us, you mean by numbers then? Numbers don't necessarily mean oppression -refugees and asylum seekers don't tend to lead rich lives

Numbers can mean heaps.... they can go around being crazy (eg bombing and whatever) just to get their point though.... and eventually the goverment will bow down to them....

 

[isildurrrr1]

Does that look scary to you for the future??

Funny how it doesn't include atheists or any other religions just only muslims vs christians. So no not that scary. I guess you also forgot the fact that A LOT of muslim countries were former BRITISH COLONIES. Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Jordan, Palestine, Pakistan, Malaysia etc.

lyk omg did you know Sandhurst trains muslim sheikhs, we must stop this madness!

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28896860

 

[isildurrrr1]

Numbers can mean heaps.... they can go around being crazy (eg bombing and whatever) just to get their point though.... and eventually the goverment will bow down to them....

Right because that's exactly how it's going to happen. Theres just loads of them that can somehow go crazy and make bombs and whatever lol. If numbers meant everything in war the mathematicians would be the best strategists. Yeah I'm sure our Muslim neighbors in the north can't handle their own crazies lol. Just because someone is muslim doesn't mean they don't want to live in a secular state. Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are quite secular in their governments.

Our freedom won't be destroyed by muslims, it's most likely to be taken away like Germany due to "security reasons." Most tyrants in western histories came to power through democratic legitimacy.

 

[Amundies]

Once the conflict in each muslim's respective country quells down, there won't really be an influx of refugees coming to developed nations therefore there really isn't any risk in being "over runned" population wise IMHO.

Hate to agree with her, but I don't see this happening anytime soon. If the West doesn't interfere, the bad guys keep killing, and conflict continues. If the West interferes, at the end of that war years later, a new (and worse) militant group emerges. I can't see any scenario where the conflict dies down.

 

[Gary_Oak]

Hate to agree with her, but I don't see this happening anytime soon. If the West doesn't interfere, the bad guys keep killing, and conflict continues. If the West interferes, at the end of that war years later, a new (and worse) militant group emerges. I can't see any scenario where the conflict dies down.

So its a pure lose lose game......

 

[isildurrrr1]

So its a pure lose lose game......

There is no real win win in ideological/religious wars.

 

[Fiction]

Hate to agree with her, but I don't see this happening anytime soon. If the West doesn't interfere, the bad guys keep killing, and conflict continues. If the West interferes, at the end of that war years later, a new (and worse) militant group emerges. I can't see any scenario where the conflict dies down.

My point was in reference to the article I presented. If Christainity in England is dropping by around 12% in 10 years, and muslim population are rising by 1% in 10 years well... I doubt muslims are going to overtake christainity based on those statistics not at least until a couple of decades later, in which the conflict should die down and hence disputing gary's claim.

 

[Gary_Oak]

My point was in reference to the article I presented. If Christainity in England is dropping by around 12% in 10 years, and muslim population are rising by 1% in 10 years well... I doubt muslims are going to overtake christainity based on those statistics not at least until a couple of decades later, in which the conflict should die down and hence disputing gary's claim.

The conflict will never die down.... no matter what we do....

Will this change your mind about Islam??

http://universalfreepress.com/media...eds-of-christian-girls-cut-off-their-breasts/

Or what about this??

 

[iBibah]

How do you know that the numbers are biased? All those places you've listed, for all I or you know, could be family, migrant friendly areas.

Again with the stereotypes. Your statistics are implying that Christians = white, and Muslims = POC. The uk = a stereotypical white nation, therefore there should be alarm bells ringing, when muslim children surpass the christain children in numbers? By over running us, you mean by numbers then? Numbers don't necessarily mean oppression -refugees and asylum seekers don't tend to lead rich lives.

Also, has it occured to you that no fornication is a Christain value? Therefore the mother's age can play a huge factor in the amount of children a Christain family will have. Furthermore developing nations usually tend to have a 'many children' ideology precisely because they view the child as an investment? Women in developed nations however tend to have a more 'have children later in life, therefore less children' because they have the luxury of focusing on their careers etc. Assuming those muslims are asylum seekers or refugees, they would also have considerably less education than the Christains. Is having many children actually part of muslim religion or is it just because of their circumstances?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-20675307

^ is an interesting article. It took 10 years, for christain population to fall around 12% and 10 years for muslim population to rise about 1% In that same 10 years, no religion rose around 11%

Perhaps those statistics you mentioned are just a little biased?

Once the conflict in each muslim's respective country quells down, there won't really be an influx of refugees coming to developed nations therefore there really isn't any risk in being "over runned" population wise IMHO.

Even Christians in the Middle East don't have as many children. Because Christians marry one person, and divorce is a no no.
Christians can't marry 4 women at a time and divorce them by simply saying "I divorce you" three times. That's why they got ahead in population in lebanon. It's not because their children are investments. For some they may be, but that doesn't justify the amount of children some men end up having.

 

[isildurrrr1]

The conflict will never die down.... no matter what we do....

Will this change your mind about Islam??

http://universalfreepress.com/media...eds-of-christian-girls-cut-off-their-breasts/

Or what about this??

Umm you do realize it's a religiously bona fide institution so it does make sense for them to enforce that rule? I'm surprised they didn't require teachers to be muslims in the first place, ton's of catholic schools require teachers to be part of the faith. Do you think Hooters hire male waiters? Can Women be priests in the catholic church??

Hasidic Jews in NYC enfroce bullshit rules in NEIGHBORHOODS but I don't see you screaming "die juden ist taken over!"

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/n...enforce-modesty-in-hasidic-brooklyn.html?_r=0

iBibah: Wtf are you talking about, you're talking as if marriage is the only way to have kids. If you want to pop 8 kids from the same woman you can do it and have an octomom thing going on. You do realize in Arab countries the only people who marry LOTS of women are EXTREMELY wealthy? Polygamy is a problem within itself that it pushes poor young men out of communities and they get pissed off and turn their anger into, well terrorism in some cases. And why the fuck are you harping on about polygamy? You do realize it's a criminal offence here in Australia right? If you want to have 20 kids with 10 different women be my guest go ahead and do it. Tell them it's for the good of the white race.

 

[SylviaB]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...-in-terror-raids/story-e6frg6nf-1227062160671

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[SylviaB]

Islam is a religion of peace


there are plenty of budhists who go around executing people

 

[nerdasdasd]

http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/c...s-gaining-ground/story-fnh81fz8-1227031629018

A Chinese Christian church which kills people

 

[Gary_Oak]

Umm you do realize it's a religiously bona fide institution so it does make sense for them to enforce that rule? I'm surprised they didn't require teachers to be muslims in the first place, ton's of catholic schools require teachers to be part of the faith. Do you think Hooters hire male waiters? Can Women be priests in the catholic church??

If i were in goverment, there one thing i would do, make religion illegal

 

[Fiction]

If i were in goverment, there one thing i would do, make religion illegal

Even if you don't agree with the religion - or with any religion, that doesn't give you the excuse to not respect those who do hold a spiritual belief. Treat others the way you want to be treated.

 

[Amundies]

If i were in goverment, there one thing i would do, make religion illegal

Yup, your ideas on how to make the country a better place are about as good as our governments' (past and present), you'd be a perfect politician.

 

[isildurrrr1]

If i were in goverment, there one thing i would do, make religion illegal

You should make a trip to north korea.

 

[Gary_Oak]

You should make a trip to north korea.

Yes, and no wonder why North Korea run soo well (but the government is shit there, tho).... Its would be a combination of North Korea and democracy, lolz

 

[isildurrrr1]

Yes, and no wonder why North Korea run soo well (but the government is shit there, tho).... Its would be a combination of North Korea and democracy, lolz

well it is the democratic peoples republic of korea lol

 

[SylviaB]

"muslims are abd because X"

"no they're not because Catholics herp a derp a derp"