latinorulz
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If we have free will, that means that at each crossroads in history, we choose only one. Out of like 1 quintillion or whatever. Each time we make a decision with our free will, we choose one path, out of 1 quintillion.Darcy111 said:so he can contradict himself by saying he knows who will be saved, yet he gave us free will to sin and defy him?
It makes christianity harder to understand and to follow...
But God is omnipotent or whatever. He KNOWS you're going to choose this path, and this path, and this path. Now, you're not making the decision because he KNOWS. HE KNOWS, because that's the decision YOU are going to make. It's different causal relation that creates his knowledge.
You've read it this way, (which is wrong):
1. I know I will give blowjob to a hobo.
2. Therefore God knows I will give a hobo blowjob.
3. God knows all and can't be wrong, so I can't change my mind, and NOT give the dirty hobo a blowjob.
But it's more like:
1. I know I will give blowjob to that hobo.
2. Therefore God knows I will give a hobo a blowjob.
3. But I changed my mind in the end. I didn't give that hobo a blowjob.
4. So God must have been wrong! But he can't be wrong. So my guess of God's knowledge was wrong. He didn't KNOW I was going to give that hobo a blowjob. What he KNEW was that I WASN'T going to give that hobo a blowjob. Because that's what I ultimately chose to do.
MY end decision creates God's knowledge. But looking backward, God knew what I was going to do, because I chose to do it, not because it was God's knowledge. See? No loop causal stuff. Just one causal way thing there. My actual decision creates God's knowledge of that decision - but my actual decision doesn't have to happen, for God to know it yet. That' doesn't make it any less MY decision.