Dum dum, de dum. Guess what, I’m having a baby in December!
However, in other news …
well for starters christianity is not about being nice to others to get riches or eternal life. its all about Jesus and the fact that we cant be nice. We couldnt be nice so much that we killed the one guy who could be.
Christianity is about accepting this fact that we are not perfect. Saying Sorry to the guy who made us and trying to be good cos we know it makes him and also ourselves happy.
Brainwashed, much? What you’re saying is that you need to abide by the restrictions of a religion, in order to accept that the human being is not perfect?
Dude. No shit. I know that, and I don’t devote precious hours of my life to some bullshit manuscript, with no factual basis, written 2000 years ago.
i dont think you can understand how good heaven will be cos there is nothing else like it. there wont be any of those things that you mention cos its just so super dooper good. mind blowing aint it.
The concept of eternal life pisses me off. When I’m 80+ and I die in my sleep, I want that to be it. I don’t want to go on and live forever. I want to die, and break down into little carbon molecules so that the earthworms can eat me and nourish flowers. That’s it.
he didnt run - rite, so he sacrificed himself, and also remember to some extent jesus was consdiered a terrorist by the king that executed him?
remember jesus had roman orgys, had sex with niggas. he was impure.
Didn’t GOD instruct Jesus to die on the cross? Thus it wasn’t really a sacrifice, because being told to die isn’t the same ass voluntarily giving up your life?
i reckon it would be. if the camels werent just being random but were sent by the authorities. The significance of the cross has come from the crusifiction so i guess if he had been trampled by camels we would all wear little hoofs round our necks.
the point is however that he died and then rose again. by whatever method
Well, actually… Christianity stole a lot of its symbols from the other religions it persecuted. Pagans, for example. The Pentecost and some other random shit, which you Christians believe are symbolic to Christianity, were actually Pagan symbols, before Christianity raped and pillaged the pagan villages.
Which means he is infinitely smarter than you.
Jesus saved me. U gotta remember Jesus said he is God so by him dying yes he can save us indirectly
The thing about you rabid Christian’s, is that you keep saying Jesus died for our sins, yet you cannot explain how this concept works. For the rest of us, it makes no sense. It is a inconceivable concept. If people still go to hell, then Jesus didn’t die for our sins, did he? Or does absolution only work for those who are willing to turn a blind eye to the inconsistencies of your religion.
christians lives are not wasted. you only have to look around you to see the ammount of good christian people aer doing. Associations such as world vision and CCF are run by christian people to better the lives of those less fortunate.
Christian people trying to live up to Jesus commandment love your neighbour live their lives for others doing good. When u got Jesus in your soul you cant help living your life like this. certainly not a waste.
Isn’t it funny how Christian organizations such as world vision and the such are revered as “good”. Yet really, in practice they are just attempting to fix the problems caused by Christian, imperial nations that raped those countries to begin with.
And what about those who are not Christian, yet devote their lives to charity? They don’t have Jesus in their souls, so what is their excuse? Obviously it isn’t the holy, divine son as their driving force. Does that then prove that you do not need religion in order to be a good person?
OH SNAP.
LOL
Find me a Biblical passage that says "Go from Europe to the Holy Land and kill Muslims" or "Establish a Church whose clergy shall sexually abuse children and hide it" and I'll renounce my belief straight away.
That's about as valid as saying that Stalin and Mao were atheists, therefore atheists will do what they did.
Same for the above.
Tell me, sweet cheeks. When the Papacy ordered the death of hundreds of thousands of women, Protestants, pagans, Freemasons, new age thinkers such as Galileo, Cathars, Muslims and Jews, what did they use as their justification?
The Bible.
Don’t be so fucking stupid as to say that the Bible doesn’t specifically say “go forth and kill Muslims”, because one of your fuckwit Christian friends will then pipe up and say “ooer, but the bible isn’t meant to be taken literally”. Find another God damn excuse. Christianity is and was responsible for some of the most gruesome atrocities on Earth.
Women were murdered in the tens of thousands for over 600 years, because the Papacy deduced that anybody with an understanding of the female anatomy was a witch. Muslims and Jews were driven out of Spain because they were heretics. Those that did not convert to Christianity were murdered. Dude, Spain is still affected by what they did to the Jews and Muslims. They effectively fucked their economy.
And your analogy with Atheists doesn’t work, dumb arses. Christians use religion and faith as the justification for their actions. Atheists do not have faith, or a belief in a higher power, thus they cannot use religion as a justification. They are then, responsible for the actions of the individual, not persuaded by religion.
One could also say that since I am a Protestant and all of the above attrocities were commited by the Catholic Church they haven't anything to do with me either.
You dumb shit. Protestants were considered as heretics by the Catholic church. Protestantism and Catholicism are not the same thing. Protestants were burned at the stake by the Inquisition. The Church of England was excommunicated by the Pope. Thus, anything done by the Catholic church cannot be the responsibility of Protestants.
I pointed out first that the main source of Christian teaching, the Bible, doesn't say anything about Crusades or Inquisitions. It's quite true that I don't need it not to engage in Crusades or Inquisitions, because it doesn't mention them! Even if it did not say, "Thou shall not kill" I would not kill someone, either.
Yet the Bible also says that those who murder shall be punishable by death.
Go figure.
To use another, non-religious example, if a member of the Liberal party commits murder, are Liberals pro-murder? (don't start) Clearly secular law states that murder is illegal. That person is going against established laws. If such a thing happened, clearly other members of the Liberal party would condemn his actions as loudly, or even more loudly than other people.
If a piece of paper which had the ideologies of the Liberal party said “Murder is acceptable”, and if all members of the Liberal party abided by this paper, and used it as justification for their actions, then it could safely be assumed that all Liberal members are capable of murder.
However it doesn’t, so shut up.
Further, in both the time of the Crusades and the early stages of the Inquisition (13th century), it's true that the Catholic Church had almost absolute political power in Europe and could cause or allow these events to happen.
HAHAHAHAHA. AND WHAT DID THE CHURCH USE AS THEIR JUSTIFICATION?
THE BIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is no way an Inquisition or Crusade could occur today, or ever again in the forseeable future. Unforunately we still have a tiny minority of fanatics such as Abortion clinic bombers. I know parts of the USA have problems with lack of church/state separation. But compare our progress to say, Islam in the Middle East and... no comment.
Stem cell research and other technologies are banned in Italy, because the Church still has the power to make laws.
The Pope gets up at Easter and condemns abortion, stem cell research and television infront of a few million rabid Catholics. These Catholics then go home and start lobbying against abortion and stem cell research, coz the Pope said it’s bad.
The Pope then goes on to refuse the distribution of condoms in Africa by Christian groups, because condoms stop potential life. Which isn’t really potential life, because a sperm cannot become a person unless it has an egg. Yet, potential life, according to the Church, apparently has more value than existing life, and the life of those millions of Africans who have AIDS.
Don’t be so hypocritical. Sure, the Church no longer governs Europe, but that doesn’t mean the Church still doesn’t have a strong foothold in the way people think.
Christianity isn’t adaptable. The Church never reformed Catholicism. The Church lost it’s political stronghold on the world, thus the rest of the world reformed the way THEY practiced religion.
The Church of England, or Protestantism is completely different from the Catholic Church. COE was created as an up yours to the Catholic church, so duh it’s laws are going to be relaxed in comparison to the Catholic church.
Dude, it’s like trying to compare Islam and Christianity. Catholicism and Protestantism are not the same fucking thing.
everyone believes in something. otherwise why breathe why get up in the morning.
it might be the belief in your family, the belief of the good of humanity, of football, beer or even the belief that there is no god.
its believing in something
therefore so called atheists are probably just agnostics. think there is a meaning but just dont know what it is
Atheists beleif that no beliefs are true therefore proving themselves to be wrong
I breathe because breathing is involuntary, and it is impossible for one to ‘voluntarily’ stop breathing. If you held your breath, you would pass out eventually, and you would automatically start breathing again.
I get up in the morning because if I don’t, I wont’ have any money, which means I’d end up on the street as a destitute homeless lady, and really starving to death is an arsehole of a way to die.
So basically, what I do everyday has nothing to do with faith. It’s because I have no choice, and I enjoy getting up and spending time with friends and family.
Fuck god, that still makes me atheist.
