Ok so why is it that God's decided to give some people an easier message than others? Obviously by examining the data... people born into some geographic regions have a much harder time accepting jesus christ.*TRUE* said:
Does God exist? (10 Viewers)
- Thread starter MoonlightSonata
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I'm sorry but how are you the authority on the bible now? I really care very little for it, it's an interpretative text with almost no solid basis to work from... I mean you do realise that many books of the bible were removed from biblical cannon by meetings of the church right? Do you believe their decisions were divinely inspired?*TRUE* said:That is not true. SOrry i hate contradicting people bluntly , but , read your bible
If you can find me an example of one person interpreting the bible that way, before St Augustine did, then I will accept that the bible has always said that...
It means something to me... See to me I just see two people on an equal footing both claiming some personal experience which has led them to believe the other is deceived by the devil. Do you believe the devil is influencing me to think this way? Like... is it clear to you that a person who hasn't had your "experiences" should hear your words and believe you over the muslim, or can you understand why both your accounts seem equally worthy?*TRUE* said:
Satan was actually an angel. Before we were created. He became filled with pride and believed himself the equal of God. He took one third of heavens angels with him. Ever since he has waged war against God. Really , really dumb.3unitz said:
But he knows how much God loves us.He watched ( rather foolishly participated believing he was winning at the time) as God allowed his son to die for us. Thats love.
It was a spiritual law.
He who sins falls short of the glory of God. We could not stand Gods glory. Ever since the first person sinned - sin has been passed down to all of us, all of our kind, and creation too. The Earth was not created to bear sin.
The only way to redeem the sin of all of us , was for God to lay down his life. This he did. Satan mustnt have realised that DEATH COULD NOT HOLD HIM DOWN.
Captain Gh3y
Rhinorhondothackasaurus
It all boils down to,
Why do you believe that what the Bible says is true?
or
How do you know the Bible is from God? (other than because it says so)
Why do you believe that what the Bible says is true?
or
How do you know the Bible is from God? (other than because it says so)
How can you be certain that you are not decieved by Satan when you know yourself that other people can be decieved? Liiiike... I know that sometimes guys can not notice that a girl is cheating on them behind their back, they're too blind by love and they say things like "NAH SHE'D NEVER DO THAT WHAT WE HAVE IS SPECIAL", so if I'm in a situation like that and I have outside observers saying to me "Hey... She's cheating on you, stop thinking with your heart" I think I'd try my best to ignore my feelings, because I know we can be decieved by them.*TRUE* said:
Why wouldn't I seek God with all my heart *TRUE*?*TRUE* said:
- I know I'm going to die, I would like to continue living.
- I have people I love who have died, I would love to know they are still alive.
- I would love to imagine the possibilities that come with such an existence.
To me, everything... absolutely everything that we can have on this mortal world, is worthless next to God/The afterlife being true. Can you please explain to me where I'm going wrong?
Because I know God. And i know that his word is true.Captain Gh3y said:
My faith is in Him.
I cant prove to you by human argument. Sometimes i think that would be so much more simple, i wonder why God didnt make it easier to just PROVE he is.
But he wants our faith.
Without faith it is impossible to please God.
Faith is important. Its believing no matter what. God values that.
hmm... true, you take some parts of the bible literally and others as a metaphor, correct? By what decision making process do you do this? It's something independent of the bible, correct?*TRUE* said:
Easier? Possible would be a start for me... if it were possible to prove his existence I might be open.
Enteebee I dont know your heart , i dont know where you are going wrong.Enteebee said:
Maybe stop with all these worldly philosophies for a while. Pray. Seek God not a sign of God that you can prove to a sceptic. Talk to him.He's there.
You will have to humble yourself to pray. To let go of yourself. Its not easy for anyone.
Seems to me that you want me to be a ripe open picking for a false god or satan, no thanks... I'm going to keep my wits about me in my quest. I am humble, I don't think I really know ANYTHING, I think I'm just working off my best guesses, it's you who's so certain they have everything right. You're so certain that your conception of God is true and everyone elses is wrong... What happened to being humble?*TRUE* said:
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pinkyforce7
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I lol'd at the epicness lol*TRUE* said:
1) The bible said he has sent his Holy Spirit to reveal his truth to us. It isnt by my decision making process but by His Holy Spirit.Enteebee said:
2) As long as you insist on finding God using false philosophy , and by demanding of God to satisfy your every doubt , you will not find him. You will need faith. Even if you have faith as small as a "mustard seed" you will do it.
pinkyforce7
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its funny cause you love your physics but you cant even understand an argument about religion3unitz said:
*clap clap clap*
pinkyforce7
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its all good, you like john mayer as well3unitz said: