Does God exist? (14 Viewers)

[tommykins]

Done all that, no reply.

And I don't think I can lead to 'faith'.

It's like doing a maths question and having 'faith' and skipping 4-5 lines of working to arrive at an answer

Anyone care to answer.

 

[Kwayera]

You need to ask a question first; it's hard to answer a statement.

 

[veloc1ty]

Anyone care to answer.

The whole point is that there is no lines of working between "Does a god exist?" and "Yes". Faith simply trusts that there is and goes straight to the answer.

 

[KFunk]

No, you see if you have multiple things, then you have multiple things.

If you have n possible solutions then your probability for those is 1/n which means they all have equal probability. It's a problem with your reasoning.

No, that is totally bogus reasoning. If I drop a tennis ball on my foot it will either break my foot or not break my foot, but these outcomes are not equally likely. You can only assign probabilities the way you describe if you first assume, or argue, that all outcomes are equally likely, for example in the classical probability problem of drawing balls out of an urn. A strong, positive argument is required before such reasoning can be applied to the outcomes 'god exists' and 'god does not exist'. I am yet to see such an argument.

 

[tommykins]

You need to ask a question first; it's hard to answer a statement.

Nah it was a lead on to the whole 'seek and ye shall find'.

What if you have seeked and didn't find? Are we going to conclude that we're not trying 'hard' enough?

When IS it hard enough? What if you HAVE tried hard enough but no 'sign' of God 'replying' ?

The whole point is that there is no lines of working between "Does a god exist?" and "Yes". Faith simply trusts that there is and goes straight to the answer.

If that's the answer I'm not willing to bet on 'yes' being correct.

 

[Josip Broz Tito]

I want to ask u a question then:

Do u believe in God? (just be honest~ it will actually get u to think more... ) ~ just a though ^^

Yes. But not in the stereotype that this society has become accustomed to.

 

[fernando]

how much wood would a wood chuck chop if a wood chuck could chop wood?

 

[Kwayera]

Fail. It's

How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

 

[ChockoRepublic]

i knew it sounded wrong.

 

[veloc1ty]

If a woodchuck could chuck wood, it would chuck as much wood as it could.

 

[Tully B.]

God does exist. What you have to question instead is: what is God?

Huh? Undercutting the argument much? What evidence can you provide to the former statement?

 

[gibbo153]

a great deal of the arguments in these threads are mainly directed at trying to disprove the claims of theists. not much time is spent with the burden of proof on anyone else.

i don't know, it just seems to me that unless both sides of the argument are evaluated it will just finish in the stalemate that it always does. that being that christian arguments are countered with 'said who' and 'yeah well you can't prove that scientifically'.

i would like to hear from some non-theists of various kinds about what their reasonings are for their beliefs

 

[nikolas]

a great deal of the arguments in these threads are mainly directed at trying to disprove the claims of theists. not much time is spent with the burden of proof on anyone else.

i don't know, it just seems to me that unless both sides of the argument are evaluated it will just finish in the stalemate that it always does. that being that christian arguments are countered with 'said who' and 'yeah well you can't prove that scientifically'.

i would like to hear from some non-theists of various kinds about what their reasonings are for their beliefs

You sir, are an idiot, you shame the good 09er name on these forums.

 

[tommykins]

a great deal of the arguments in these threads are mainly directed at trying to disprove the claims of theists. not much time is spent with the burden of proof on anyone else.

i don't know, it just seems to me that unless both sides of the argument are evaluated it will just finish in the stalemate that it always does. that being that christian arguments are countered with 'said who' and 'yeah well you can't prove that scientifically'.

i would like to hear from some non-theists of various kinds about what their reasonings are for their beliefs

Claim 1 -

God exists

Claim 2 -

The flying spaghetti monster exist

Claim 3 -

There is a teapot out in the galaxy somewhere

Difference between these 3 claims?

More or less nothing.

 

[gibbo153]

i actually meant non tool answers

 

[tommykins]

i actually meant non tool answers

...Are you bloody serious?

Okay how about this -

The reason I don't believe in God is the same reason as to why I don't believe in fairies, pixies or Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny.

 

[nikolas]

i actually meant non tool answers

seriously stfu, it's tards like you that make us 09ers look bad.

To clarify, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot

 

[7oas7y]

also, isn't the bible not historically true? but supposedly 'spiritually' true?

ie what happened in the Bible didn't really happen, but people think it would be cool if it did.

 

[7oas7y]

Yeah but he can turn water into wine! If that's the case, surely he can turn water into Johnny Walker Green Label, right?

And he can turn bread into fish (I think). Assuming this is the case, he can turn bread into various other marine life.

Oh, and who can forget walking on water? Can you imagine how cool that would be? You could walk... ON WATER! Like wtf man?!

 

[youngminii]

Well, I believe God exists. The thing I don't understand is why people have to ridicule Christianity. I mean, maybe if you had done research and constructively criticised it, sure. But it's just stupid when someone blatantly flamed Christianity.

Flaming time.