Engineering Studies Predictions/Thoughts (2 Viewers)

[lucas10champ]

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Look at these 1990s hsc engineering science questions, it's sad what the HSC has become for science, just to attempt to appeal to the masses who weren't even considering these subjects in the first place.

https://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/hsc_exams/hsc2000exams/hsc00_enginsci/95ENSC3.PDF

While the first question is doable with HSC mod 5 physics knowledge, it literally will never be asked in a HSC exam since it will be too "controversial" as everyone's gonna cry post exam on how it was such an impossible question (which can partly be blamed due to the fact that we were never exposed to challenging questions in the current syllabus). Personal anecdote of mine, when the 2024 physics exam finished, coming out the exam hall many were saying "that parallel plates question was SOOO hard I could only do part I" meanwhile it was just basic algebra. And "how were we suppose to derive that" which once again, was just basic algebra. This goes to show nobody was challenged by past HSC Physics questions, and when they asked slightly harder questions - that still don't even compare to 1990s hsc eng sci - everyone folded. Are yall serious?

Trebla, move this to my thread if you wish

bro this mf cannot be real

 

[tsswhzl]

do you guys have any advice for sum1 starting engineering studies next yr?

There is alot to remember including manufacturing methods of polymers, steels and other materials. There is alot of material science and remembering specific examples such as the structure and use of laminated veneer lumber and how roofs are joined to minimise bending stresses (gang nails). This, I would say is more important especially since the mathematics is quite basic in this subject. Learning how to minimise marks lost on drawing questions and remembering AS1100 standards is key. Coming from someone who only studied a little before each test what I wished I did this year and last was using spaced repetition software to remember certain numbers, definitions and facts. I can link an example deck that I have made these past weeks.

 

[Isit_actually?]

There is alot to remember including manufacturing methods of polymers, steels and other materials. There is alot of material science and remembering specific examples such as the structure and use of laminated veneer lumber and how roofs are joined to minimise bending stresses (gang nails). This, I would say is more important especially since the mathematics is quite basic in this subject. Learning how to minimise marks lost on drawing questions and remembering AS1100 standards is key. Coming from someone who only studied a little before each test what I wished I did this year and last was using spaced repetition software to remember certain numbers, definitions and facts. I can link an example deck that I have made these past weeks.

please do. ANYTHING IS HELPFUL AT THIS POINT.

 

[bigbird102]

scaling myths, but i was first in course for engineering studies and i got a 95 so again, if ur passionate enough, anything is a good subject

i think engo is quite a mid subject tbh. im doing it now in yr 12 and didn't do it in yr 11 even tho there was an accelerated cohort. alot of the kids there at my school who did accelerated got 95+ if u were ranked above like say 8/30, some even getting 98s and 99s. Now for this yr some of those kids who got that 98 and 99 mark I will beat in english and maths but can't even fathom a mark that high in engineering. like im ranked 4/34 internally for the subject and predicted 96 but i just can't see it happening. I just don't think the subject is worth it unless u do accelerated, otherwise theres so many better options.

 

[tsswhzl]

please do. ANYTHING IS HELPFUL AT THIS POINT.

Ok I will shortly

 

[parmesean]

i think engo is quite a mid subject tbh. im doing it now in yr 12 and didn't do it in yr 11 even tho there was an accelerated cohort. alot of the kids there at my school who did accelerated got 95+ if u were ranked above like say 8/30, some even getting 98s and 99s. Now for this yr some of those kids who got that 98 and 99 mark I will beat in english and maths but can't even fathom a mark that high in engineering. like im ranked 4/34 internally for the subject and predicted 96 but i just can't see it happening. I just don't think the subject is worth it unless u do accelerated, otherwise theres so many better options.

idk how you’re doing it in y12 without doing it in y11, that’s like a whole year of missing content…. it’s definitely much better for the accelerated students but it’s not exactly a very hard subject either, it’s applied math and physics so it goes against most school subjects, that’s why a lot of people struggle

 

[English hater]

scaling myths, but i was first in course for engineering studies and i got a 95 so again, if ur passionate enough, anything is a good subject

95 raw or alighned?

 

[coolcat6778]

There is alot to remember including manufacturing methods of polymers, steels and other materials. There is alot of material science and remembering specific examples such as the structure and use of laminated veneer lumber and how roofs are joined to minimise bending stresses (gang nails). This, I would say is more important especially since the mathematics is quite basic in this subject. Learning how to minimise marks lost on drawing questions and remembering AS1100 standards is key. Coming from someone who only studied a little before each test what I wished I did this year and last was using spaced repetition software to remember certain numbers, definitions and facts. I can link an example deck that I have made these past weeks.

do you think this is more or less workload compared to hsc physics?

 

[bigbird102]

do you think this is more or less workload compared to hsc physics?

i know a guy who did accelerated engo last yr and does physics now and he said its somewhat similar. i think physics is harder on the calculations but easier on just wrote memorising content

 

[coolcat6778]

i know a guy who did accelerated engo last yr and does physics now and he said its somewhat similar. i think physics is harder on the calculations but easier on just wrote memorising content

I wish I did this subject instead of chemistry (but our school didnt run it), I would've gotten a band 5 in it at the least as I did band 5 physics

 

[parmesean]

95 raw or alighned?

aligned ill never know my raw mark

 

[English hater]

aligned ill never know my raw mark

raw mark database, its linear, raw to aligned

 

[porkyces]

There is alot to remember including manufacturing methods of polymers, steels and other materials. There is alot of material science and remembering specific examples such as the structure and use of laminated veneer lumber and how roofs are joined to minimise bending stresses (gang nails). This, I would say is more important especially since the mathematics is quite basic in this subject. Learning how to minimise marks lost on drawing questions and remembering AS1100 standards is key. Coming from someone who only studied a little before each test what I wished I did this year and last was using spaced repetition software to remember certain numbers, definitions and facts. I can link an example deck that I have made these past weeks.

Hey do you happen to have the link to your deck? Ik it's close but anything would help, thanks!

 

[bigbird102]

Hey do you happen to have the link to your deck? Ik it's close but anything would help, thanks!

do we reckon this yrs gonna be a hard year? Defs seem them pulling out some wag pictorial like an airpods case.

 

[porkyces]

do we reckon this yrs gonna be a hard year? Defs seem them pulling out some wag pictorial like an airpods case.

hope not!!

 

[porkyces]

I'll be honest I haven't done heaps of study as I have been worrying about my other subjects but I love engineering and have a pretty solid understanding on most concepts. My biggest area of weakness is truss analysis. 90% of the time I can find the reactions easily, it's just understanding the next steps to find a certain member. I have a feeling I'd be better off working on areas I just need a bit of help rather than relearn truss analysis for hours and get a few extra marks. Does that sound reasonable? I could potentially gain more marks from my trial on areas where I was so close than way off if that makes sense.

 

[bigbird102]

I'll be honest I haven't done heaps of study as I have been worrying about my other subjects but I love engineering and have a pretty solid understanding on most concepts. My biggest area of weakness is truss analysis. 90% of the time I can find the reactions easily, it's just understanding the next steps to find a certain member. I have a feeling I'd be better off working on areas I just need a bit of help rather than relearn truss analysis for hours and get a few extra marks. Does that sound reasonable? I could potentially gain more marks from my trial on areas where I was so close than way off if that makes sense.

tbh imo truss analysis is one of the easier sections of engo (permitting we're talking like somewhat basic). One of my big things against engo is all the materials and drawing, like the materials take ages to learn and its so pointless it feels at time and just tedious, more so then any of my other subjects. Some pictorials are just annoying and same with the niche drawing rules. If i was u and haven't done heaps, probs just try and learn the fundamentals of truss quickly like methods of sections an then just focus on materials and AS1100, etc. I'm hoping tomorrow is somewhat similar to last yr. Like some of the things they asked in 2020 were pretty confusing, like they expect u to make up a forming process for one of them. I also hate for forming process when u have to know like the niche cases when they're used. anyways gl for tomorrow. im just glad its my last exam

 

[porkyces]

Yeah I understand where your coming from, some truss analysis we did in class was quite easy, but then I go to past trials/HSC and it can be a whole different ball game. I will try to get the basics back in my head which in the past hour I have been trying, I feel pretty good about some materials questions as I have quite a few handwritten notes about them but again applying it to some of the HSC questions is sooo different as you say. Thanks for your advice! Good luck tomorrow too!

 

[porkyces]

Also, what do we think about using dot points for provide (in some contexts)/outline/list questions? just for time saving really. I feel I remember my teacher saying it was fine but just want to hear other opinions. Of course for explain/describe must go in more depth

 

[bigbird102]

Also, what do we think about using dot points for provide (in some contexts)/outline/list questions? just for time saving really. I feel I remember my teacher saying it was fine but just want to hear other opinions. Of course for explain/describe must go in more depth

I reckon just write it out. The only ones where I would dotpoint rlly include discuss or compares. Time (hopefully) rlly shouldn't be as much of an issue for engo. Depending on how quickly u are with calculations and writing as well, but u should finish with about 1 hour left just purely for the drawings or maybe more. I reckon for my trial I had about 1 hr and 20 minutes left when I was on the last drawing question, albeit the pictorials in hsc take way too long for 3 marks and the nut and bolt questions can be both difficult and tedious.