So who locked this thread the first time. Come out and say it.
Anyway:
fOxYcLeOpTrA89 said:
poor people can also use fee help. and may i ask how its unrealistic? many ppl seem to use it every yr with no problems. my cousin was awarded the university medal at unsw and was a fee paying student. his mother earnt less than $30k a yr and his father died a couple of yrs ago. he had 2 pay for his position at uni due to the death being in his final yr of school. he deserved his position more than any1 else in his course at the time which is evident in his marks. without the loan program or fee paying places, he would be doing sum shitty commerce degree
Oh, what a touching anecdote. Oh, well, there goes all my opposition towards allowing rich people to cut the queue. I think I'm going to print it out and show everyone who missed out on a CSP place of a course of there choice, fell within the DFEE mark and chose another because they couldn't afford it. I'm sure they will be touched and forget about all their worries in the world!
And I'll think I'll print it out and show it to the homeless gentlemen in Hyde Park who can't afford food and shelter because well, allegedly some guy whose father died made it into university through DFEE! Wonderful! Touching! Amazing! Tres bon! Maqnifique!
ari89 said:
I admitted where I was wrong and the reason for it all by myself like a big boy
wtf?
Is this a lesson in how to choice quote something. Practice for Liberal politicking? Answer the question you want to be asked but not the question you were asked.
Azamakumar said:
Maybe it wasn't obvious enough in my post. If I choose the DFEE course I'm taking out a FEE-HELP loan, thats anywhere between 41k and 61k that I'm going to owe, pending a 2nd year transfer.
Pending a 2nd year transfer. The poor person doesn't even get to try the second year transfer from the degree they
wanted to do, and if they fail they continue on with their 2nd/3rd/4th choice of degree. The rich person can try from the DFEE course and if they fail, we'll they just continue having their parents pay for the course no worries.
Totally fair and equitable stuff there.
In that situation I see no reason for the rich kid to not get a spot, provided that the poor one was unwilling to take out a loan. I see no reason for people to be having a fucking cry in that situation, except in an instance where they aren't a citizen, and they have no access to the loan.
Unwilling to take out what kind of loan? A FEE-HELP loan? Because we'll what happens if it's the BE where you have to go over by $30 000 to cover the full course amount and being
willing doesn't necessarily grant you the fact that a private lender will give you the money you are asking for. Why risk it at all then? If you try in your first year, the lender will say, no way, way too much of a risk and if you try in your last year and the lender refuses because you don't have enough collateral, we'll you're fucked with $80k worth of debt and no degree. Or they give you a loan with 25% interest or some absurd amount because the deem you such a risk.
Is it worth being possible placed in a debt spiral because you couldn't get the required UAI but a rich person with the same UAI can easily afford it.
My hands are tired.
