That is completely true, dude why do you need to get so hostile? Notice I started the post with 'I think'. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But peoples rights should be respected. My question is why would homosexuals want to be part of a practice by institutions which condemn them? If gays can get married in a church that is happy to do it than good on us but marriage is a sacrament and should have been confined to the church. (That is my opinion). I'm sure you may think differently but there's no need for hostility.
Wait, why?
My view exactly. And if you want to think about it from a rights point of view , collective human rights are meant to be more important than an individual.
It pre-dates recorded history. The Ancient Greeks did it, so did the Romans and the ancient Chinese were doing it around 5000 B.C. as well. Plus, interestingly enough, the Nuer tribe in Sudan allow for same-sex marriage too.
We would claim that the union of man and woman is a natural event ordained by God since the creation of woman.
The point isn't physically getting married in a church, but being recognised as legally being married by the 'state'.
Marriage in the way which we define it kind of was shaped by the church though. In the cultures your speaking of marriage was used to basically make women property which was possibly previously the case in the churches but isn't any longer, obviously.
So you mean that the church redefined marriage to make it so women weren't property anymore?
It clashes with their principles. Anyway I don't see why homosexuals have such a problem with not being able to marry if they're granted civil unions which are just like marriage but with a different name. A lot of homosexuals need to get off ttheir soap boxes and realise they're not always being persecuted.
The issue with civil unions, and I agree, is if marriage = civil union then aren't people just being very precious over a simple word? And marriage these days is become more of a secular thing anyways and again, as pointed out by another poster above, gay marriage is about being legally recognised by the state, not by every religion out there. They aren't asking the state to make churches marry them, just to allow them the right to marry within society as a whole.
They are being over protective of that word. Okay maybe a lot of religions condemn homosexuality and homosexuals hate them for that or whatever. But the problem is that homosexuals are also worried about the word. Religious individuals say marriage is sacred and homosexuals say that by not allowing them marriage the government and society general is saying that they can't share the same love or sustain relationships like heterosexual couples. From where I'm standing it's all about the word, and this is why it's ridiculous. Implement civil unions which are legally recognized equally to marriage and tell everyone to stop whinging about their rights.
Yeah... Nowhere in that post did you convince me that marriage, as a word and thus an institution, belongs to religion and thus, homosexuals can only get civil unions. I could've said the pretty much same thing and then changed the last sentence to "Just let homosexuals get married anyways".
By Creation, you mean a Eve born from Adams rib.
