How to calculate your ATAR from trial/past paper marks (1 Viewer)

[carrotsss]

how do u use this i tried and its just these boxes that wont fill or change no matter what i try

you gotta make a copy mate

 

[MoeyNeeds90+]

you gotta make a copy mate

how do i do that mate

 

[quarkkkk]

how do i do that mate

click 'file' then click 'make a copy' just like in google docs mate

 

[MoeyNeeds90+]

click 'file' then click 'make a copy' just like in google docs mate

tx mate >3

 

[quarkkkk]

tx mate >3

np mate >33

 

[CirrusTheJet]

Thanks.

 

[TMac2173]

do you have Earth and environmental as a subjest?

 

[4lulai]

CARROTSSS you are a GODSEND!! Can you please add society and culture if its not a botherrr

 

[coolcat6778]

this calculator overestimates ur atar significantly just like any other calculator for hsc marks below 80 in english advanced.

the scaled mark (or atar equivalent) for same HSC marks should be the exact same between standard and advanced and studies.

see:

UAC compass overestimates your atar by at least 3 points for marks below 78 in English Advanced

Explanation: The UAC compass calculator is extrapolating the graph below 78 from origin (shown as the straight red line) because for some reason UAC couldn't use the whole dataset for their public calculator. However, using the knowledge that all English scale the same as stated by UAC...

boredofstudies.org

 

[carrotsss]

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this calculator overestimates ur atar significantly just like any other calculator for hsc marks below 80 in english advanced.

the scaled mark (or atar equivalent) for same HSC marks should be the exact same between standard and advanced and studies.

see:

UAC compass overestimates your atar by at least 3 points for marks below 78 in English Advanced

Explanation: The UAC compass calculator is extrapolating the graph below 78 from origin (shown as the straight red line) because for some reason UAC couldn't use the whole dataset for their public calculator. However, using the knowledge that all English scale the same as stated by UAC...

boredofstudies.org

this blind spot is because there’s no data below the 25th percentile for English advanced, so my model is pretty much just guessing below there.

a major update is coming soon which will address this and make major improvements to alignment and scaling modelling

 

[coolcat6778]

this blind spot is because there’s no data below the 25th percentile for English advanced, so my model is pretty much just guessing below there.

a major update is coming soon which will address this and make major improvements to alignment and scaling modelling

yeah, it would be more accurate if you used the scaling data of english studies hsc marks between 0 to 60, standard for scaling data between 60 and 80 and advanced for 80 to 100 cause those are the values uac put in their annual report for those subjects so less guessing needed at otherwise extreme ranges for one subject

 

[killer queen]

this is seriously such an impressive project, MASSIVE kudos...my only qualm is that it appears to be glazing me (ik what @coolcat6778 says about inaccuracy at low eng adv marks and I wonder, is there also inaccuracy at the higher ranges)

because no way my trial marks get me what I got (to be fair tho I did overperform significantly in 2 subjects but still)

 

[carrotsss]

this is seriously such an impressive project, MASSIVE kudos...my only qualm is that it appears to be glazing me (ik what @coolcat6778 says about inaccuracy at low eng adv marks and I wonder, is there also inaccuracy at the higher ranges)

because no way my trial marks get me what I got (to be fair tho I did overperform significantly in 2 subjects but still)

higher ranges are fine because there is data available for those. the updated version will be using much better modelling but even then it won’t change estimates by a significant amount, your ATAR will still sit in a similar sort of range

 

[GoldenMango]

higher ranges are fine because there is data available for those. the updated version will be using much better modelling but even then it won’t change estimates by a significant amount, your ATAR will still sit in a similar sort of range

When is the updated version coming

 

[carrotsss]

When is the updated version coming

the modelling is almost done, we’re aiming for before hsc but no promises

 

[razerk]

the modelling is almost done, we’re aiming for before hsc but no promises

higher ranges are fine because there is data available for those. the updated version will be using much better modelling but even then it won’t change estimates by a significant amount, your ATAR will still sit in a similar sort of range

wait really, i genuinely thought it was glazing me but is it fr 🥹

 

[carrotsss]

wait really, i genuinely thought it was glazing me but is it fr 🥹

it won’t be glazing you as long as the marks you’re putting in are fair, the ideal use case is entering the marks you get when doing the 2022 hsc past papers under timed conditions, for which it should be almost perfect. if you do easier/harder papers your ATAR will be over/underestimated accordingly. and also if your in-school subject rankings are terrible/great then likewise

 

[razerk]

it won’t be glazing you as long as the marks you’re putting in are fair, the ideal use case is entering the marks you get when doing the 2022 hsc past papers under timed conditions, for which it should be almost perfect. if you do easier/harder papers your ATAR will be over/underestimated accordingly. and also if your in-school subject rankings are terrible/great then likewise

how do you account for your subject rankings in the calculator though?

 

[coolcat6778]

how do you account for your subject rankings in the calculator though?

u don't. Just assume u will get a hsc mark same as exam mark. Assessment ranks are bs and should be scrapped. View my thread

 

[carrotsss]

how do you account for your subject rankings in the calculator though?

more or less with vibes since it’s entirely up to your individual school.

you could get an estimate based on rankings on this forum and then your actual ATAR should be somewhere between the estimate from that and my calculator. just make a quick post here with your rankings and school’s past b6 count in each subject. this is only really accurate if you’re in the b6 range and your school gets a lot of b6s though, and if your school does much better or worse then it won’t account for that.