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RealiseNothing · Jun 17, 2012

Re: HSC 2012 Marathon

barbernator said:
Ok here is another question. Prove any product-sum or sum-product trig ratio from the startpoint of sin(x+y) and sin(x-y)

sin(x+y) + sin(x-y) = sinxcosy + sinycosx + sinxcosy - sinycosx

sin(x+y) + sin(x-y) = 2sinxcosy

sinxcosy = 1/2[sin(x+y) + sin(x-y)]

barbernator · Jun 17, 2012

Re: HSC 2012 Marathon

RealiseNothing said:
sin(x+y) + sin(x-y) = sinxcosy + sinycosx + sinxcosy - sinycosx

sin(x+y) + sin(x-y) = 2sinxcosy

sinxcosy = 1/2[sin(x+y) + sin(x-y)]

cmon, change it to sum to product as well

RealiseNothing · Jun 17, 2012

Re: HSC 2012 Marathon

barbernator said:
cmon, change it to sum to product as well

I proved above that:

$sin(x+y) + sin(x-y) = 2sin(x)cos(y)$

Now let $x + y = \alpha ~and~ x - y = \beta$

So we have $sin\alpha + sin\beta = 2sin(x)cos(y)$

Using simultaneous equations of $x + y = \alpha ~and~ x - y = \beta$ we arrive at the expressions:

$2x = \alpha + \beta ~and~ 2y = \alpha - \beta$

Hence:

$x = \frac{\alpha + \beta}{2} ~and~ y = \frac{\alpha - \beta}{2}$

Sub these into $sin\alpha + sin\beta = 2sin(x)cos(y)$ and we end up with:

$sin\alpha + sin\beta = 2sin(\frac{\alpha + \beta}{2})cos(\frac{\alpha - \beta}{2})$

Timske · Jun 17, 2012

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For Sy,

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Sy123 · Jun 17, 2012

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Timske said:
For Sy,

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Thanks man.

$1. \ \ \ddot{x}=18x^3+27x^2+9x \\\left(\frac{1}{2}v^2\right)=18x^3+27x^2+9x \\ \frac{1}{2}v^2=18\frac{x^4}{4}+27\frac{x^3}{3}+9\frac{x^2}{2}+C \\ \\ x=-2 \Rightarrow v=-6 \\ \frac{1}{2}(-6)^2=18\frac{(-2)^4}{4}+27\frac{(-2)^3}{3}+9\frac{(-2)^2}{2}+C \\ \\ C=0 \\ \\ \therefore v^2=9x^4+18x^3+9x^2 \\ \\ v^2=9x^2(x^2+2x+1) \\ v^2=9x^2(1+x)^2$
$2. \ \ v=-3x(1+x) \\ \\ \text {Since} \ \ \ v<0 \\ \frac{dx}{dt}=-3x(1+x) \\ \frac{dt}{dx}=\frac{1}{-3x(1+x)} \\ \therefore t=\int \frac{-1}{3}\frac{1}{x(1+x)} \\ \therefore -3t=\int \frac{1}{x(1+x)}$
$3. \ \ t=0 \Rightarrow x=-2 \\ \\ \therefore \ln{(1+\frac{1}{-2})}=C \\ \therefore C=\ln{(\frac{1}{2})} \\ \\ \ln{1+\frac{1}{x}}=3t+\ln{0.5} \\ \\ \frac{1}{x}=e^{3t+\ln{0.5}}-1 \\ \\ \therefore x=\frac{1}{e^{3t+ln{0.5}}-1}$

I will edit one in

Timske · Jun 17, 2012

Re: HSC 2012 Marathon

Check your working for 3 there's a mistake

Sy123 · Jun 17, 2012

Re: HSC 2012 Marathon

Hmm, I cant find a mistake there

Timske · Jun 17, 2012

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RealiseNothing · Jun 17, 2012

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Find two squares such that their difference is 2011.

Sy123 · Jun 17, 2012

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Do they have to be integers?
If not, then a possible answer is $\sqrt{2013} \ \ \ \ and \ \ \ \ \sqrt{2}$

Also, my I dont see how my answer has a mistake.

I may have forgotten the brackets in $\ln{1+\frac{1}{x}}=3\ln{0.5}$

That 0.5 is 1/2, but I wasnt bothered to put it into fractional form since it was already a long question.

nightweaver066 · Jun 17, 2012

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RealiseNothing said:
Find two squares such that their difference is 2011.

If they're integers,
Let a and b be two positive integers such that,
a^2 - b^2 = 2011, a > b
(a + b)(a - b) = 2011

But 2011 is a prime number, therefore a + b = 2011, a - b = 1 or a + b = 1, a - b = 2011
Clearly a + b cannot equal to 1 as a, b > 0 and they're both integral
So a + b = 2011
a - b = 1
2a = 2012
a = 1006
b = 1005

RealiseNothing · Jun 17, 2012

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This may be a bit harder, but find two squares such that their difference is 2012.

And hence find a formula to find two squares whose difference is 4n where n is a positive integer.

Timske · Jun 17, 2012

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Sy123 said:
Do they have to be integers?
If not, then a possible answer is $\sqrt{2013} \ \ \ \ and \ \ \ \ \sqrt{2}$

Also, my I dont see how my answer has a mistake.

I may have forgotten the brackets in $\ln{1+\frac{1}{x}}=3\ln{0.5}$

That 0.5 is 1/2, but I wasnt bothered to put it into fractional form since it was already a long question.

Oh i see what u did still turns out to be correct..

deswa1 · Jun 17, 2012

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RealiseNothing said:
This may be a bit harder, but find two squares such that their difference is 2012.

(a+k)^2-a^2=2012 (for a,k integers)
2ak+k^2=2012
k(2a+k)=2012
use 2,1006 as pairs.

k=2, 2a=1004
a=502
Therefore the squares of 502,504 differ by 2012

nightweaver066 · Jun 17, 2012

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RealiseNothing said:
This may be a bit harder, but find two squares such that their difference is 2012.

And hence find a formula to find two squares whose difference is 4n where n is a positive integer.

Factors of 2012 are 1, 2, 4, ...
Same thing as before, a^2 - b^2 = 2012 = 2(1006)
(a + b)(a - b) = 2(1006)
a + b = 1006, a - b - 2
a = 504, b = 502

(a + b)(a - b) = 4n
a + b = 2n, a - b = 2
a = n + 1, b = n - 1

RealiseNothing · Jun 17, 2012

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Here's a much harder one, but the result is really cool.

Given that:

$I_n = n! - (n-1)!$

Prove that:

$I_n = (n-1)I_{n-1} + (n-1)!$

barbernator · Jun 17, 2012

Re: HSC 2012 Marathon

RealiseNothing said:
Here's a much harder one, but the result is really cool.

Given that:

$I_n = n! - (n-1)!$

Prove that:

$I_n = (n-1)I_{n-1} + (n-1)!$

thats not too bad, typing up working now. ok i wont lol

nightweaver066 · Jun 17, 2012

Re: HSC 2012 Marathon

RealiseNothing said:
Here's a much harder one, but the result is really cool.

Given that:

$I_n = n! - (n-1)!$

Prove that:

$I_n = (n-1)I_{n-1} + (n-1)!$

Mind if i go backwards? lol

$I_n = (n -1)I_{n - 1} + (n - 1)!$

$= (n - 1)[(n - 1)! - (n - 2)!] + (n - 1)!$

$= (n - 1)^2 (n - 2)! - (n - 1)! + (n - 1)!$

$= (n - 1)(n - 1)!$

$= \frac{(n - 1)n!}{n}$

$= n(n - 1)! - (n - 1)!$

$= n! - (n - 1)!$

RealiseNothing · Jun 17, 2012

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barbernator said:
thats not too bad

Depends which way you do it tbh. If you weren't given the second part to prove it would be a lot harder. ie - Find $I_n$ in terms of (n-1) only, so that no other term appaears in the expression but some form of (n-1).

RealiseNothing · Jun 17, 2012

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nightweaver066 said:
Mind if i go backwards? lol

$I_n = (n -1)I_{n - 1} + (n - 1)!$

$= (n - 1)[(n - 1)! - (n - 2)!] + (n - 1)!$

$= (n - 1)^2 (n - 2)! - (n - 1)! + (n - 1)!$

$= (n - 1)(n - 1)!$

$= \frac{(n - 1)n!}{n}$

$= n(n - 1)! - (n - 1)!$

$= n! - (n - 1)!$

I probably shouldn't of told you what it was equal to so you couldn't go backwards lol.

It would of been much harder working it out going forwards.

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