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I didn't use a diagram :p you don't need to
PM me briefly the method without the diagram cause I didn't think much into it.

But the question recommended the use of a diagram so I proceeded with one
 

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I had to help a student do this maths question just now. I feel it would be good to leave it on the 4U marathon as an instructive exercise for any E3 or above aiming student to attempt.

Algebraically because I hate geometrical anything:

 

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^The answer is C.
 

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Find all functions f:N->N such that f(n)+f(f(n))=2n.

(N is the set of positive integers).

You might find induction useful to justify your answer.
 

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Find all functions f:N->N such that f(n)+f(f(n))=2n.

(N is the set of positive integers).

You might find induction useful to justify your answer.
How would you do this using HSC techniques...
 

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Find all functions f:N->N such that f(n)+f(f(n))=2n.

(N is the set of positive integers).

You might find induction useful to justify your answer.
I have no idea if this is right

PS Am I using the term mapping right? It flows better than "renaming the variable".





Alternate method I just thought of - is this valid?

f(n) = n is a solution (clearly, by inspection, whatever).

Assume there is another solution such that for some n f(n) > n and the functional equation holds:

f(f(n))+ f(n) > f(n)+ n > 2n which is a contradiction

Assume there is a solution such that for some n f(n) < n and the functional equation holds:

f(f(n)) + f(n) < f(n) + n < 2n which is a contradiction

Hence for every n, n <= f(n) <= n meaning f(n) = n is the only solution
 
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Your first method needs to be tidied up a bit to work. What is a_1? For any particular a_1 you can choose A and B in lots of different ways. You need to show that for ANY such choice, a_2 must be equal to a_1, or the sequence must violate the properties that iterating f must have. You have not quite done this from what I can see.

For your second attempt,how are you deducing your first inequality: f(f(n))+f(n)>f(n)+n?

You are on the right track though (to the solution I came up with, which is the one I intended 4U students to find), thinking about such inequalities.
 

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How would you do this using HSC techniques...
Pretty much just using properties of inequality and induction. Out-of-HSC techniques don't come into it at all unless you approach it in a really weird way.
 

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Find all functions f:N->N such that f(n)+f(f(n))=2n.

(N is the set of positive integers).

You might find induction useful to justify your answer.
Since f(n) is a natural valued function, we know f(n) is natural for all n in N

f(1) + f(f(1)) = 2

The left hand side consists of two naturals. The right hand side is 2. The only way to express 2 as a sum of 2 naturals is 1 + 1. Therefore, f(1) = f(f(1)) = 1.

f(2) + f(f(2)) = 4

If f(2) = 3 then we have f(3) = 1

But then that would mean f(3) + f(f(3)) = 1 + 1 = 2 =\= 6.

Contradiction. Thus, f(2) =\= 3

If f(2) = 1, then f(f(2)) = 3 <=> f(1) = 3.

Contradiction. Thus, f(2) = f(f(2)) = 2.

P(n): f(n) = n for all n in N

P(1), P(2) are the available true base cases.

Suppose P(k) is true for all 0 < k < n + 1, and that P(n + 1) is not true.

Assumed: f(1) = 1, ... f(n) = n, f(n + 1) =\= n + 1

f(n+1) + f(f(n + 1)) = 2n + 2

Suppose f(n + 1) = m where m < n + 1

But then f(n) + f(f(n) = m + f(m) = 2m < 2n + 2

Thus, f(n + 1) cannot be less than n + 1

Suppose f(n+1) = m where m > n + 1

Then f(n + 1) + f(f(n+1)) = m + f(m) = 2n + 2

Then f(m) = 2n + 2 - m < n + 1 since m > n + 1

Let 2n + 2 - m = m* < n+1

But then f(m) + f(f(m)) = m* + m* = 2m* < 2n + 2 < 2m

Which is a contradiction. Thus, f(n+1) cannot be greater than n+1

So now we have n < f(n+1) < n+2

f(n+1) is an integer. Thus, f(n+1) can only be equal to n+1, since the inequality is necessarily true.

So if P(1), ..., P(n) is true, then P(n+1) cannot be untrue, i.e. it must also be true.

By the Axiom of Mathematical Induction, P(n) is true for all n in N.

So the only solution to the functional equation is f(n) = n.

 
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You were quite vague on the induction hint. So I just guessed I had to use strong induction.

Next question:

In an equilateral triangle ABC, a segment is projected from A such that it intersects the side BC at D and the circumcircle again at Q

Prove the following statement:



Here is a diagram to help with visualisation:

 
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You were quite vague on the induction hint. So I just guessed I had to use strong induction.

Next question:

In an equilateral triangle ABC, a segment is projected from A such that it intersects the side BC at D and the circumcircle again at Q

Prove the following statement:



Here is a diagram to help with visualisation:

 
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