In your opinion what is the most important subject? (2 Viewers)

[melanieeeee.]

Re: What is the most important subject?

4U math is recomended for many degrees allowing you to get a well paid job. Acturial studies and engineering are two examples of subjects heavily math orientated.

Mining engineering has an average salary of 120k on your first year out of uni, where as Medicine and Law are slightly under 100k.

1. 4U maths isn't on the recommended list for the majority of degrees even if we are talking about 'those degrees that pay well' (which btw is all crap - certain degrees dont guarantee high pay).
2. not everything is about money
3. where did you get the statistic: 'Mining engineering has an average salary of 120k on your first year out of uni, where as Medicine and Law are slightly under 100k'. please reference your source

Ezactly, Australia is so racist.

yet Australia is probably the most multicultural country out there

 

[kaz1]

Re: What is the most important subject?

i see no point in english most people can read and write

and especially in film study i dont care wat the director is trying to say i just wanna watch the goddam movie

 

[melanieeeee.]

Re: What is the most important subject?

i see no point in english most people can read and write

and especially in film study i dont care wat the director is trying to say i just wanna watch the goddam movie

english isn't so much about the content but rather how you see the content. it helps develop your critical thinking skills which you will need for later in life no matter what direction you take (particularly if you are going to uni). it also helps build up essay writing skills which you will need if you are going to continue your education.

 

[lyounamu]

Re: What is the most important subject?

In response to the thread topic. i sincerely believe English is the most important subject in terms of it's usefulness and it's also the one common denominator for all HSC students.

Also it's probably the most interesting subject, where you get to learn some things you might not normally learn on your own and you may even develop an appreciation of it. Case in point, Shakespeare, poetry, Novels...etc.

I doubt usefulness of some English topics in our everyday lives. At one point in life, do you need to know about poems? At one point in life, do you need to know about Shakespeare? My argument is that large section of what we learn in English are truly irrelevant and should be abolished.

I do not doubt the usefulness of English in general but I truly question the RELEVANCE OF some topics in English and I think that's truly unfair for students who undertake either Adnvaced English, Extension 1 English and Extension 2 English where we basically need to pick up the damn Shakespeare texts and write essays about it. They don't have to do it in Standard English and ESL where most of materials seem to be quite relevant.

I mean, why do we need to go further than we are capable of? Majority of Advanced English people don't even know how to structure essays and how to write English in write grammatical order! I am not even forgetting those in Extension 1 & 2 English. If the BOS wants to develop critical thinking, they better start from the basis where we basically learn how to write better and use better vocabulary from the start! Many people therefore end up copying essays from others to succeed in their exams.

Even thouh English PROMOTES so called "critical thinking", English remains itself quite fact-based and majority of subjects promote that "critical thinking" as well. English is not the only subject that does that.

 

[lyounamu]

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Lyounama, Thanks for that very deep insightful lecture that you have taken the time to bestow upon me . I'm just trying to rack up my post count so that I can post in non-school. Do you know how many posts I will need?

No, I wasn't lecturing on you. I thought your post was good to quote and that's what I did. I actually wasn't aiming at anyone. I am so sorry if I caused offence or anything in anyway.

You can post whenever you want, can't you??? I mean, the number of post doesn't matter or that's why I thought.

 

[foram]

Re: What is the most important subject?

1. 4U maths isn't on the recommended list for the majority of degrees even if we are talking about 'those degrees that pay well' (which btw is all crap - certain degrees dont guarantee high pay).
2. not everything is about money
3. where did you get the statistic: 'Mining engineering has an average salary of 120k on your first year out of uni, where as Medicine and Law are slightly under 100k'. please reference your source

1) Mining Engineering basicly guarantees high pay.
2) Almost everything is about money.
3) UNSW

 

[catzhernandez]

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. I am so sorry if I caused offence or anything in anyway.

You can post whenever you want, can't you??? I mean, the number of post doesn't matter or that's why I thought.

It's fine, your points were valid and well structured. I can definitely see where you're coming from.

 

[lyounamu]

Re: What is the most important subject?

2) Almost everything is about money.

Deep in my heart, I want to shout "no!". But in reality, that seems to be the truth for many of us who are only attracted to what we can get out of than how much we can satisfy ourselves from doing a particular job.

 

[Aerath]

Re: What is the most important subject?

If you think everything is about money - you will lead a very narrow and depressing life. Trust me - money isn't everything - it doesn't buy happiness.

 

[lyounamu]

Re: What is the most important subject?

If you think everything is about money - you will lead a very narrow and depressing life. Trust me - money isn't everything - it doesn't buy happiness.

That's the absolute truth.

 

[michael1990]

Re: What is the most important subject?

If you think everything is about money - you will lead a very narrow and depressing life. Trust me - money isn't everything - it doesn't buy happiness.

It doesn't buy happiness. But it makes happiness more accessible.

Money makes the world go around, learn the importance of money.

 

[foram]

Re: What is the most important subject?

english isn't so much about the content but rather how you see the content. it helps develop your critical thinking skills which you will need for later in life no matter what direction you take (particularly if you are going to uni). it also helps build up essay writing skills which you will need if you are going to continue your education.

Essays in english are written differently to essays in just about every other subject. Have you ever noticed? An economics essay is structured differently to an english essay, and it's more factual. I can easily get full marks in economics essays. English is emotional ranting supported by obscure interpretations of whatever you're writing about. Theres is no correct answer, and the only way to get a good marks is to support the teachers opinion. The marking guidelines are completely subjective, so the teacher can give you whatever mark they want. Meaning that because i'm asian and male, the white female english teachers are proberbly racist against me so they give me a bad mark, and I can't argue against it because the marking guidelines are completely based on the teachers opinions.

In other subjects you know when you've gotten full marks, but in english you may think you'll get full marks, and end up with 50% and vice versa. My friend spent 20 minutes doing his english assignment just for the sake of doing it, and he got 13/15, but I spent 4hrs making mine perfect, and I get 9/15.

 

[melanieeeee.]

Re: What is the most important subject?

1) Mining Engineering basicly guarantees high pay.
2) Almost everything is about money.
3) UNSW

1. Not if you can't get a job, it not.
2. I feel very sorry for the person that thinks money is everything. Why don't you go do drug dealing or something or maybe once you get married to tell your wife to go out and be a prostitue. I heard they get a lot of money. $5000+ a week according to the Jerry Springer show.
3. Please link.

 

[bored of sc]

Re: What is the most important subject?

the most important subject is english because it can applied to anyone, regardless of their subject interests

 

[kaz1]

Re: What is the most important subject?

money is everything because it is a coincidence of wants and wants give you satisfaction(utility in eco) and therefore money=happiness

 

[Gay Captain]

Re: What is the most important subject?

Mining engineering has an average salary of 120k on your first year out of uni, where as Medicine and Law are slightly under 100k.

Fucking hell you hsc kids are deluded

MY DEGREE IS GOING TO GIVE ME 100K FIRST YR OUT BECAUSE I'LL GET A HIGH UAI AND GO TO A PRESTIGIOUS UNI

 

[foram]

Re: What is the most important subject?

1. Not if you can't get a job, it not.
2. I feel very sorry for the person that thinks money is everything. Why don't you go do drug dealing or something or maybe once you get married to tell your wife to go out and be a prostitue. I heard they get a lot of money. $5000+ a week according to the Jerry Springer show.
3. Please link.

1) Mining Engineering is almost a guaranteed job.
2) I'm going to remain single.
3) It was a school excursion to UNSW, not a website, but i'm sure there are tables of the average salary of different jobs somewhere on the internet.

 

[foram]

Re: What is the most important subject?

money is everything because it is a coincidence of wants and wants give you satisfaction and therefore money=happiness

Indeed.

Listen to the people who do economics.

 

[melanieeeee.]

Re: What is the most important subject?

Essays in english are written differently to essays in just about every other subject. Have you ever noticed? An economics essay is structured differently to an english essay, and it's more factual. I can easily get full marks in economics essays. English is emotional ranting supported by obscure interpretations of whatever you're writing about. Theres is no correct answer, and the only way to get a good marks is to support the teachers opinion.

Economic essays and English essays may be different in terms of content where economic essays are more factual whist English essays are more interpretation however there are similarities such as gaining skills to actually write the essay, how to structure the essay etc.

The marking guidelines are completely subjective, so the teacher can give you whatever mark they want. Meaning that because i'm asian and male, the white female english teachers are proberbly racist against me so they give me a bad mark, and I can't argue against it because the marking guidelines are completely based on the teachers opinions.

In other subjects you know when you've gotten full marks, but in english you may think you'll get full marks, and end up with 50% and vice versa. My friend spent 20 minutes doing his english assignment just for the sake of doing it, and he got 13/15, but I spent 4hrs making mine perfect, and I get 9/15.

you cant seriously tell me you believe that. firstly teachers dont even know who you are if you have a student number on your assessment. secondly the reason why hypothetically asians get a bad mark is because they are just not good at english nothing to do with racism. just like asians are typically good at maths. (sorry for the stereotypes).

 

[Aerath]

Re: What is the most important subject?

Listen to the people who do economics.

Or listen to the people who have grown up around 'wealth' and 'money' all their lives, have always received what they wanted, always gotten any toy or present that they have always wished for - and see exactly how 'happy' they are.