Invasion Day. (3 Viewers)

[redmayne]

Mad haha, I want one. Where abouts did you get yours from?

Umm can't remember. But they're around. In tourist shops I've seen them. And on the net.

 

[BlackDragon]

Just because your culture is different to theirs, doesn't mean it's right, muff butt.

Yeah, the idea that because they weren't some western developed type people they were a lesser people is not true. These are the sorts of ideas that lead to the things that happened to them in the first place.

 

[redmayne]

Got my aboriginal flag ready for the burning, solid day

Yet another stupid post from a fucked up individual.

Dont be ridiculous Will, it was in no way an invasion. Nomadic tribes with no concept of property can't be invaded.

My god some of you are in denial. Just because there wasn't a war and houses being taken . It was an invasion you fools. It was land occupied by the Aborigines. The English came in and took it. Dispossessed the land they used and did actually "own" in their way.

Hitler: "Fuck you polish cunts this shits ours now you're gonna die faggots"

English settlers: "Well I do say what a most curious place this is. Oh look over there chaps, it's a coloured fellow! Everybody wave!"

lol of course

but they still had laws against killing them etc etc

Sure there were "rules", but no one paid attention to them, not even the king. If they did, hundreds of thousands of Aborigines wouldn't have been killed.

They took over, okay. And condemned a thriving culture and society to the fate we see today.

But in no way should it be ever called anything close to "invasion day" or "colonisation/civilisation day". Just leave it the way it is and try to diminish its role as a rallying day for bogans and rednecks from the Sutherland Shire and beyond. Only a couple of years ago it was a fine day, now it's gone to shit.

 

[Graney]

I stopped caring when you mentioned women were just property. Sure, the English were still pretty darn sexist, but at least they weren't dirty tribesman. Being more concerned as to the loss of women as property rather than fellow members of the tribe means they deserved to get wiped off the planet anyway.

Or did you just word it poorly?

I'm not trying to glorify aboriginal culture. It was pretty awful. Whatever flaws there were in indigenous culture, it doesn't justify european actions.

 

[Riet]

No I'm sorry, it was not an invasion.

Edit: I am not saying the way the aboriginal people have been treated since then was acceptable or trying to justify it. The landing of the first fleet was not an invasion and were it not for the british colonising here it would have been the dutch, french, spanish, portugese, etc. That's why it is known as the colonial period. Now, we can choose to celebrate Australia day as being a day about all of our immigrant cultures living together or the aboriginals can ostracise themselves with this archaic notion.

 

[redmayne]

No I'm sorry, it was not an invasion.

Edit: I am not saying the way the aboriginal people have been treated since then was acceptable or trying to justify it. The landing of the first fleet was not an invasion and were it not for the british colonising here it would have been the dutch, french, spanish, portugese, etc. That's why it is known as the colonial period. Now, we can choose to celebrate Australia day as being a day about all of our immigrant cultures living together or the aboriginals can ostracise themselves with this archaic notion.

You can't just say it's not and expect your word to be gospel.

What is colonising but a form of invasion?

Please explain your argument that it wasn't an invasion.

 

[Riet]

I would define invasion as a hostile action, and although the actions of many individual settlers were perhaps less than noble, I believe that the intentions of the British rulers were more benevolent.

 

[redmayne]

I would define invasion as a hostile action, and although the actions of many individual settlers were perhaps less than noble, I believe that the intentions of the British rulers were more benevolent.

Within 12 years of the first hostile and one-sided interactions between Europeans and Indigenous peoples, due to a combination of introduced disease, dispossession of land, and direct violence, 80% of the Indigenous population surrounding Sydney was wiped out.

They came, they saw, they conquered.

 

[sweet16]

itt: butthurt abo lover

 

[redmayne]

itt: butthurt abo lover

Go to bed dear, school starts soon.

 

[Graney]

I would define invasion as a hostile action, and although the actions of many individual settlers were perhaps less than noble, I believe that the intentions of the British rulers were more benevolent.

Land was commonly forcibly seized from people, often under armed contest, it's as benevolent as any annexation of inhabited land. It's the hostile state endorsed action to occupy territory recognized as occupied, and resources identified as controlled by a particular group of people.

Australian frontier wars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[untouchablecuz]

bran nue dae

 

[JonathanM]

Apologists will be the death of us all.

 

[Planck]

We were cunts in the past. Was I a cunt in the past? Nope. I wasn't alive.

 

[Anonymous-]

We were cunts in the past. Was I a cunt in the past? Nope. I wasn't alive.

???

 

[redmayne]

We were cunts in the past. Was I a cunt in the past? Nope. I wasn't alive.

No, but you're a cunt now.

 

[moll.]

A time where convicts were used in an invasion? Gallipoli. Yeh ANZACs were armed, but so were guards on First Fleet. They were shackled in Gallipoli, I think they called it 'under British command'. And ANZACs were used as a distraction so that British troops landed relatively safely.

So yes, the British would do something like that.

lolwut?
Fail comparison.

 

[zaxmacks]

No, but you're a cunt now.

lol

 

[Slidey]

No, but you're a cunt now.

Yeah but he's a cunt with nice curly locks.

 

[NewiJapper]

cunt.