Is a 4th honours year compulsory in UNSW Advanced Science? (1 Viewer)

[sinophile2]

Or is it just that the degree takes four years? Or three?

 

[Iruka]

Yes, advanced science means that you have signed up for honours right from the beginning. If you want to graduate after three years you will have to change to the plain vanilla science degree.

Its one of the reasons that I have always maintained that advanced sci is a less flexible degree than a straight BSc (where you can always go on to do honours if you wish and you have the marks for it.)

 

[sinophile]

Thank you for your reply.

If I do not want to do an honours year, do you recommend I go to Usyd's advanced BSc degree, or UNSW's 'normal' Bsc?

 

[Tim035]

The fact you also have to face though is if you don't plan on doing anything post grad, what exactly are you going to do with a Bsc?

 

[LordPc]

I'll pose another question, why do you want to do adv sci and not do honours? I thought that adv sci was aimed at students who dont want a straight B sci and want to do contribute to the field

 

[sinophile]

I'll pose another question, why do you want to do adv sci and not do honours? I thought that adv sci was aimed at students who dont want a straight B sci and want to do contribute to the field

Its the option to have the choice of doing honours or not.

But to be honest, I have no idea what the hell tertiary study is about. I feel i'm jumping into a black hole with no information, and I don't know where I can learn more. The info on the uni website, to me, is arcanely organised and gibberish.

Is Adv.sci more about research or post grad?

 

[ValentinesM]

Thank you for your reply.

If I do not want to do an honours year, do you recommend I go to Usyd's advanced BSc degree, or UNSW's 'normal' Bsc?

are you implying that you don't have to do honours with Advanced Science at USYD?

 

[tmahendradatta]

Its the option to have the choice of doing honours or not.

But to be honest, I have no idea what the hell tertiary study is about. I feel i'm jumping into a black hole with no information, and I don't know where I can learn more. The info on the uni website, to me, is arcanely organised and gibberish.

Well, you came to the right place to learn more.

Imo, tertiary study is all about preparing you to join the work force as a 'specialist' (or example; commerce maj in accounting is prepping you to join an accounting firm/ general businees; doing a b sci is preping you to be a research scientist in academia or industry, medicine = clinician; etc, etc).

Only problem is... alot of students go in either not knowing what they want to do with themselves.


Is Adv.sci more about research or post grad?

A bachelor of Sci (advanced & normal), in general, is about preparing you to be a science researcher in Academia. Research & postgrad in science (PhD, Post doc) the same thing. This is because when you do a PhD; your really reearching and expanding our knowledge on a particular topic.

I have no knowledge about masters because I've never considered doing one. Someone may want to chip in. My guess is that doing a masters allows you to gain greater knowledge in a field. This alows you to gain certain skills so you become more employable. LIke doing a masters in business gives you the skills to run a business.

Hope that helped

 

[dvse]

Thank you for your reply.

If I do not want to do an honours year, do you recommend I go to Usyd's advanced BSc degree, or UNSW's 'normal' Bsc?

"Advanced science" is a simply a marketing gimmick to attract students who are put off by low UAI cutoffs. It may impress some employers I suppose. Keep in mind that 3 year science degree is something of a joke and severely limits your options.

 

[Survivor39]

Keep in mind that 3 year science degree is something of a joke and severely limits your options.

I don't think it is a joke - it provides the basics for understanding research.

I think it's also less intimidating than putting up "Bachelor of Science (7 years)" in the UAC handbook. That would turn most potential students away from doing science just to prove that it will take that long to become a 'real' scientist.

 

[dvse]

I don't think it is a joke - it provides the basics for understanding research.

I think it's also less intimidating than putting up "Bachelor of Science (7 years)" in the UAC handbook. That would turn most potential students away from doing science just to prove that it will take that long to become a 'real' scientist.

I don't know about natural sciences, but in maths, physics or even computing one would almost certainly be incapable of understanding vast majority of current research after a 3 year BSc. In mathematics you don't see anything more recent than 1930s, for example.

 

[tmahendradatta]

I don't know about natural sciences, but in maths, physics or even computing one would almost certainly be incapable of understanding vast majority of current research after a 3 year BSc. In mathematics you don't see anything more recent than 1930s, for example.

Wow --> totally different to life sciences. After 3 years of doing biomolecular or some other medical sciences... you're more or less have the know how/gist of the most current research that has been published recently + current techniques being used in science. But at the same time though; I do agree that you're not really a scientist until you do research an attempt to discover something new. But still; afte 3 years though --> you are still valuable enough to become employable as a science analyst/writer or something.

 

[Lydia_88]

How about a more 'employable' study plan like safety science?...i'm actually majoring in it and it is awesome (distance leaning options, and NO Lab work! yipee!!)