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MuffinMan

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Midi Case F-USB +400W Black
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16x DVD+-RW DL LG / Liteon16x
DVDROM LG Black
1.44Mb FDD Black
120Gb SATA HDD Seagate / WD
Logitech Internet Keyboard Black
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Gigabyte 8IPE775Pro (P4775) (P4 only)
Gigabyte K8NS (AMD64) I'm not planning on getting amd anyway
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10/100Mbps LAN
8 USB2.0 (2 Front) & 2 IEEE1394
17" LCD BenQ T701 Black
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128Mb ATI Radeon 9200se DVI

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$1,420 - AMD Athlon64 3000
$1,480 - AMD Athlon64 3200
$1,540 - AMD Athlon64 3400

$1,450 - Intel Pentium 530 3.0
$1,500 - Intel Pentium 540 3.2
$1,600 - Intel Pentium 550 3.4

Which processor should i get? Which one do u think is most worth the price?

Also can someone please explain these terms:

DVI
IEEE1394

Thanks in advance
 

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HSC_sUcKsSsS said:
120Gb SATA HDD Seagate / WD
Logitech Internet Keyboard Black
Logitech Optical Wheel M Black
Gigabyte 8IPE775Pro (P4775) (P4 only)
I like. Logitech = Win. The seagate SATA drives are nice, too, I have 2 x 160gb drives. Fast. :D More RAM would be nice, but if you're using the computer for a average purpose, then don't bother.

Just to clarify - is that a DVD reader, and then a separate DVD writer ? You don't need both, since the writer can read too. Not sure how that's meant to read in the specs.

HSC_sUcKsSsS said:
128Mb ATI Radeon 9200se DVI)
This is nice if you're not doing heavy gaming, but if you want to do that, get a higher end card.

HSC_sUcKsSsS said:
$1,500 - Intel Pentium 540 3.2
This one is good from the P4 series. You won't notice the difference from 3.2 --> 3.4 + saves you $100.

HSC_sUcKsSsS said:
DVI
IEEE1394
DVI = Digital Video Input. You can capture video with this.
IEEE1394 = FireWire connection = A LOT faster than USB. Also used for video capture, or plugging in devices such as an iPod.
 

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*headdesk*

:p

It's just redundant, perhaps you could swap it out for something - another hard drive maybe. Is this a package from somewhere, or a custom package?
 

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I don't see any benefit in getting a 256mb card over a 128mb. I challenge anyone to find me results on two identical cards, one with 128mb and another with 256mb, which can show the superiority of 256mb in any conditions.
People claim it will matter in the future, indeed, but how far away in the future? For most, too far away to matter.

Also, I would take the Athlon64. The Pentiums aren't 64-bit. You will benefit from 64-bit once the new XP is relseased, how much you will benefit is yet to be seen.
 

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HSC_sUcKsSsS said:
i'll prob ask for a better vid card but... extra $$$ but worth it i want 256mb cards
I agree with Bone577. Get a better card if you want, but don't waste money upgrading to 256mb at the moment.

But I disagree on the Athlon. I'm not interested in an Intel vs. AMD discussion, but I'm not a big fan of the next generation Windows, Longhorn, or the Palladium infrastructure it's built upon, giving Microsoft more control over what you can and cannot do. 64-bit is a non-issue if you're buying a computer at this very second.

Six months? I suppose, but not a worry at the moment. The P4 is $20 more, and a more appropriate chip for the system.
 

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MedNez said:
I agree with Bone577. Get a better card if you want, but don't waste money upgrading to 256mb at the moment.

But I disagree on the Athlon. I'm not interested in an Intel vs. AMD discussion, but I'm not a big fan of the next generation Windows, Longhorn, or the Palladium infrastructure it's built upon, giving Microsoft more control over what you can and cannot do. 64-bit is a non-issue if you're buying a computer at this very second.

Six months? I suppose, but not a worry at the moment. The P4 is $20 more, and a more appropriate chip for the system.

That is assuming you don't.... *acquire* the new WinXP later. 64-bit can also be useful if your running a Linux box since there are 64-bit distros out, which is something i wan't to try out ASAP.
 

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ok, i'm not as experienced as the others :S but having just bought a new computer..

Midi Case F-USB +400W Black
If you plan on taking it anywhere or moving it around yourself make sure it's not TOO heavy. Also non-branded cases won't last as long (supposedly) as other cases.. but then again I forked out $200 for mine :D

16x DVD+-RW DL LG / Liteon16x
DVDROM LG Black
You don't need both o_O A RW will read thme as well. Brand here doesn't really matter I don't think, but I prefer LG to Liteon.. or was that the other way around.. either way most DVD brands are the same with different branding...

1.44Mb FDD Black
120Gb SATA HDD Seagate / WD
Ask yourself if the first is necessary or if you could put another drive in there XD
I use USB for everything soo..
And I just got an 80gig SATA drive, have to install it, but I hear SATA is nice and fast so good for your apps/windows.

Logitech Internet Keyboard Black
Logitech Optical Wheel M Black
The internet keyboard is GOOD. Logitech keyboards are so pretty and so soft and really really nice. Optical mice are good as well, altho if you already have a kb/mouse from the computer you're currently on you don't really need this kind of accessory..

512Mb DDR400 Kingmax
you might want more ram if you're a heavy gamer or you like doing graphical work (photoshop, illustrator etc).. otherwise that's plenty enough for normal computer use..

56K V92 Modem Webexcel Int[/quote[
tell them to keep it in the box and ebay it :p
seriously, who buys these things any more??

8 USB2.0 (2 Front) & 2 IEEE1394
firewire (IEEE1394) is nice to have .. 2 ports are kind of silly I think since there are few firewire devices you'll be using constantly. nice # of usb ports .. front usb ports are a godsend

17" LCD BenQ T701 Black
the benqs are good for the money. although if you're gaming, again, it might not live up to expectations..

1000W Mini Sub&SPK 2.1 Black
Gigabyte 8 Channel Audio
128Mb ATI Radeon 9200se DVI
Good enough, the audio on the motherboard is decent if you're just gonna be listening to music :p And I don't know about the 9200 :)

I'd go for an intel if you're not planning to overclock it, I hear they're a lot cooler and quieter than AMD (although yes, they're more expensive)
 

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dont forget that an AMD Athlon64 3000 is equivalent to around 2.2ghz.
dont be misled into thinking that the actual speed is 3ghz cause it aint.
 

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You can get a similar package, but with a decent video card and 17" CRT monitor from MSY for ~1500
 
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Bone577 said:
I don't see any benefit in getting a 256mb card over a 128mb. I challenge anyone to find me results on two identical cards, one with 128mb and another with 256mb, which can show the superiority of 256mb in any conditions.
People claim it will matter in the future, indeed, but how far away in the future? For most, too far away to matter.

Also, I would take the Athlon64. The Pentiums aren't 64-bit. You will benefit from 64-bit once the new XP is relseased, how much you will benefit is yet to be seen.

People into video editing would benefit from 256mb ram video cards while gamers would generally benefit from 128mb (unless the 256 cards come with the same speed ram, but i remember in the gf2/3/gf4+ti days 128 meg cards used faster ram than 256)
 

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8 USB2.0 (2 Front) & 2 IEEE1394
Hm, In regards to too many ports - I think 8 USB ports might be a little excessive. But the more the merrier if they're coming for free =P. Most firewire cards come with with 2 posts also, anti, I'm not sure if you can just get one port. I use one for digital video and one for my ipod 8)
 

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dont forget that an AMD Athlon64 3000 is equivalent to around 2.2ghz.
dont be misled into thinking that the actual speed is 3ghz cause it aint.
But it runs faster than P4 2.2GHz and should be somewhat similar to P4 3.0GHz
I'd choose the $1,420 - AMD Athlon64 3000 but that's only because I want to try AMD (never had one in my life). It might be hotter than P4, I'm not very sure.

BTW I think the DVI is not to capture video, but to output to a high-end LCD monitor which supports digital input (yours doesn't)... the specs of ur monitor is here, http://www.benq.com.au/HomeShowProduct.asp?prodID=353 although in the brochure it says 16ms response time
 
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BTW I think the DVI is not to capture video, but to output to a high-end LCD monitor which supports digital input
Yeah, my bad, the newer video cards have normal output as well as DVI output, so if you choose to go LCD in the future, you don't need a new card that can support it. I would guess the entire Radeon 9000 series has DVI, since the 9200 is advertised with it, and my 9800 still has it.
 

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yo you are getting the GIGABYTE K8NS-939 Ultra mobo right?

Well i hear it has issues running two modules in DC at 200. meaning it sux running dual ram .. but im not too sure on this so dont kill me if im wrong


Another thing , im gonna be getting a 6600GT AGP , does anyone know if this is worth it? will it be able to play the latest games for a while at least ....

If yes then i would advise you personally to buy this card too , its not that expensive at all...
 

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Ah, I wasn't sure - I only have one port and THAT would be on my laptop :p
 

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The P4 cooler is noisy when the CPU heats up, very noisy

but problem is the P4 cooler is very efficient and it is hard to find a better cooler, unless you
what to go with one of those 1kg copper monsters.

athlon64/sempr0n is much more quiet.

EDIT: note dell computers have a wind tunnel leading out of computer, it does a good job keeping the cpu fan quiet.
 

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