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Does anyone know the cut off for interstate applications to JCU (UAI wise), I heard It's Op1 around 99 is this true? Or could we scrape with 96-97?
 

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I imagine the cut off would be incredibly high. Waivering the UMAT requirement is a bold step, thus the pre-selection round is very stringent.

One is supposed to receive notification of an interview offer around the 17th of November.
 

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The cut-off for interstates is typically above 99, but you can get an interview offer as low as 93 if you have an application that is exemplar/outstanding.
 

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The cut-off for interstates is typically above 99, but you can get an interview offer as low as 93 if you have an application that is exemplar/outstanding.
you mean to tell me that stupid piece of paper...with those dumb 4 questions is worth that much?? ............................sigh...............
 

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you mean to tell me that stupid piece of paper...with those dumb 4 questions is worth that much?? ............................sigh...............

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Stop right there!

Surely the decision to exclude the UMAT as a criterion for selection suggested the true weighting of the application? I doubt the decision to replace the ACER scheme with the pre-application form was a light one.

Personally, I kick it really old school. Keep the marks in the 99th-100th percentile, be a decent and honest human being and the rest will work itself out. On the other hand, all medical schools have been moving away from academic-exclusionary admissions for the past, like, forever. If memory serves me correctly, the JCU application was tailored specifically for applicants who had a keen and passionate understanding of the rather unique socio-political atmosphere of Queensland’s healthcare system. (Question 2, I believe? Had something to do with tropical, indigenous and rural medicine.) Ultimately, they were looking for applicants who would go on to truly serve their community, whether it be within the political or social arenas of medicine. I can see why an applicant with less than stellar academic credentials would be advantaged in some respects to the JCU application.

Take the time to learn about Australia’s healthcare system instead of just dismissing it. It's a mistake that a lot of interviewees make. If you find yourself bored to death by the idea of it all, you ought to consider a different path. Medicine, after all, is incredibly socio-politically charged and a great portion of your medical studies will be devoted to understanding how incredibly fucked up The System is and how to fuel progressive change. (Hey thurr, Master of Public Health!) It's not all stethoscopes and pharmaceutical dinners.
 

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Stop right there!

Surely the decision to exclude the UMAT as a criterion for selection suggested the true weighting of the application? I doubt the decision to replace the ACER scheme with the pre-application form was a light one.

Personally, I kick it really old school. Keep the marks in the 99th-100th percentile, be a decent and honest human being and the rest will work itself out. On the other hand, all medical schools have been moving away from academic-exclusionary admissions for the past, like, forever. If memory serves me correctly, the JCU application was tailored specifically for applicants who had a keen and passionate understanding of the rather unique socio-political atmosphere of Queensland’s healthcare system. (Question 2, I believe? Had something to do with tropical, indigenous and rural medicine.) Ultimately, they were looking for applicants who would go on to truly serve their community, whether it be within the political or social arenas of medicine. I can see why an applicant with less than stellar academic credentials would be advantaged in some respects to the JCU application.

Take the time to learn about Australia’s healthcare system instead of just dismissing it. It's a mistake that a lot of interviewees make. If you find yourself bored to death by the idea of it all, you ought to consider a different path. Medicine, after all, is incredibly socio-politically charged and a great portion of your medical studies will be devoted to understanding how incredibly fucked up The System is and how to fuel progressive change. (Hey thurr, Master of Public Health!) It's not all stethoscopes and pharmaceutical dinners.
narrowpin JCU's entry selection criteria has been designed to facilitate the entry of students who have experiences or can explain in detail why they want to do medicine, what they can contribute, tropical medicine and the health problems of Northern Australia and Qld at heart. Personally, I think JCU's system with selection criteria with the comprehensive application, verified documents, references should be incorporated into all medical school application systems.

I agree with most of your points Mel, I'm also studying Public Health at the moment!

I also wish prospective med students knew and were asked about the problems they will encounter when they graduate aswell before getting into medicine or taking bonded/rural places.
 
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The cut-off for interstates is typically above 99, but you can get an interview offer as low as 93 if you have an application that is exemplar/outstanding.
Is this based on observations, a document or what :p?

It does sound a little to good to be true

Also, I don't know how it works interstate - but are there second round offers for those who meet the threshold but don't have the predicted UAI?
 

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I agree with most of your points Mel, I'm also studying Public Health at the moment!

I also wish prospective med students knew and were asked about the problems they will encounter when they graduate aswell before getting into medicine or taking bonded/rural places.
I'm not doing a masters in public health (yet). I'm a first year who gets really bored so turns to politics. Any good, though?

I suspect the decision to phase out undergraduate medicine at the more established and conservative medical schools can be attributed to the general lack of insight into our healthcare system on part of the applicants. (I'm not blaming anybody here. It's just that you'd be hard pressed to find year twelve students who have the time to read journals, attend symposiums and lobby members of parliament and still have exemplary academic standing.)

After all, graduate medicine allows students the flexibility of a bachelor's degree during which time can be devoted to understanding the politics of medicine before learning about the science and practice of it. By all means, I find that there's a lot more integrity in a graduate based approach as opposed to undergraduate.

Yeah, I say all this but I'm applying as an undergraduate. I'm a "unique snowflake".

Personally, I found JCU the most taxing of all my applications. Chasing down the reference letters was not an easy feat. (Academics are really sloppy when it comes to anything besides their area of study. And some of them are just downright rude.)
 

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Yeah, I know your a first year student, "also"* was a typo! I'm trying to do 5 things at once!

We've seen Melb go down that route with the US style 'Melbourne model', 3 other Group of 8 universities are also contemplating introducing a simillar model.

References or attached letters/documents can also come form work, non-acdemic qualifications, work exp, volunteer work, etc it doesn't always need to be academicly based. I have references detailing my ability to save 'damsals in distress' (or damiens in distress, to be politically correct, *sigh*...) as a rescue officer.

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Is this based on observations, a document or what :p?

It does sound a little to good to be true

Also, I don't know how it works interstate - but are there second round offers for those who meet the threshold but don't have the predicted UAI?
Based on students results and interview offers. Like I said your application must be of the highest calibre. But it is typically 99+ for interstaters and yes there are 2nd round offers for students who achieved above there uai/ter/op prediction, etc.
 
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Based on students results. Like I said your application must be of the highest calibre. But it is typically 99+ for interstaters and yes there are 2nd round offers, and those who get a lower uai than their expected required op/uai/ter prediction maybe rejected.
Yeah. Honestly, short of making the admissions committee fall to their knees and start weeping over your Shakespearean-in-magnitude application, you'd need an incredibly high UAI.

Don't bet on anything.
 

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Yeah. Honestly, short of making the admissions committee fall to their knees and start weeping over your Shakespearean-in-magnitude application, you'd need an incredibly high UAI.
hehe. Yes that might be a stretch!
 

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Suprisingly alot of students do leave it to the last minute getting their applications in, given the time of year they are due. A few of my friends got an interivew with 97-98 as there predicted uai but had good references which showed community involvement and interest in medicine.

But, like I have said before you will typically need a uai prediction 99+ to get an interview as an interstater or GPA of 5.75+ for all non-standards.
 

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dolbinau said:
Is this based on observations, a document or what :p?

It does sound a little to good to be true
u can get an interview normally with low ninties as an interstater but i'v only heard of one example - a person i knew got an interview (and an offer) with ~94-93 but he was rural and he emphasized that fact repeatedly in the application. JCU do favour rural/aboriginal applicants.
 

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u can get an interview normally with low ninties as an interstater but i'v only heard of one example - a person i knew got an interview (and an offer) with ~94-93 but he was rural and he emphasized that fact repeatedly in the application. JCU do favour rural/aboriginal applicants.
are you a chick or a guy?
 

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are you a chick or a guy?
obviosly a guy as stated in my avatar or whateva its called.

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The cut offs can be quet low especially is you are from a rural area. If you are from the city and interstate you could get in with a 95-96 provided you have an outstanding application form and a solid interview.
 

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got JCU, 99.1 uai.

but was just wondering if JCU is a "Good" university or not. As in where about is it ranked in terms of med schools. For instance i know Monash is right up there, along with UNSW.
 

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Well actually i know that monash and adelaide have the best reps. Jcu is probably not that high unfotunately but in saying that it wont affect a graduate too badly in med.
 

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Well actually i know that monash and adelaide have the best reps. Jcu is probably not that high unfotunately but in saying that it wont affect a graduate too badly in med.
UNSW and Monash, lol Uadel.

The problem with going to an interstate university is that it is very difficult to gain internship back in your homestate (NSW), so your stuck there for atleast 7-8 years in Qld. This could be an issue with finances, etc.

It won't really affect a graduate as internship is currently based on a lottery system and is guarenteed till 2013 in Qld (after that currently knowbody knows, not even teh state gov coz they don't want to pay for the commonwealth's extra med student places) also entry into specialisations are determined on exams and not personal merit, etc.
 

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entry into specialisations are determined on exams and not personal merit, etc.
Hey woozy which uni ru doing med at ?
What sort of exams do they have to select people to enter a specialisation ?
 

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