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Oh for god sake, you call Green democratic socialism and Katter's agrarian protectionism two of the same yet you consider a shift from minarchist to anti-statist meaningful. You are the lunatic fringe, you do know that?
 

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Oh for god sake, you call Green democratic socialism and Katter's agrarian protectionism two of the same yet you consider a shift from minarchist to anti-statist meaningful. You are the lunatic fringe, you do know that?
Hmm gee me thinking whether or not the state should exist at all isn't significant, but two quasi-socialist statist ideologies are?


Not that I even implied that it was significant ora nything in my original post.

Oh and it not being significant only makes your original comment all the more retarded.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't true communism entail a stateless society?
Yes, marxists believe that after there is a revolution and the means of production are communally owned and so forth, the state will fade away.

I do NOT prescribe a specific economic order. All I believe is that, if we value things like peace, prosperity and freedom, that we ought to get rid of the state.

If a bunch of communists want to form their own communist cities away fom everyone else, then that's cool, just as long as they don't use the coercive aparatus of the state to do so, but the problem is that nearly all of them want to do the latter.
 

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Hmm gee me thinking whether or not the state should exist at all isn't significant, but two quasi-socialist statist ideologies are?


Not that I even implied that it was significant ora nything in my original post.

Oh and it not being significant only makes your original comment all the more retarded.
I don't think I mentioned significance actually. And while I normally just let it slide because it's really not worth it, your labelling anyone who disagrees with your half developed nihilism as a retard or a fuckwit is starting to get tedious.
 

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Yes, marxists believe that after there is a revolution and the means of production are communally owned and so forth, the state will fade away.

I do NOT prescribe a specific economic order. All I believe is that, if we value things like peace, prosperity and freedom, that we ought to get rid of the state.

If a bunch of communists want to form their own communist cities away fom everyone else, then that's cool, just as long as they don't use the coercive aparatus of the state to do so, but the problem is that nearly all of them want to do the latter.
Just out of curiosity, why shouldn't the means of production be owned communally?
 

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I don't think I mentioned significance actually.
ugh, meaningful then.

And while I normally just let it slide because it's really not worth it, your labelling anyone who disagrees with your half developed nihilism as a retard or a fuckwit is starting to get tedious.
You being a retard is getting tedious.
 

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Just out of curiosity, why shouldn't the means of production be owned communally?
basically because that is a dreaful way of running an economy and would greatly diminish the standard of living for millions of people
 

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lol Lentern just admit you want the state to control people's lives and the economy as long it aligns perfectly to your fucked up morality and preferences, also that you hate individual freedom because you are under the delusion that you, one man, know what is best for the rest of world

500th post YEA!
 

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Well they are actually different words with different definitions and everything. Not that engineering students are known for their grasp of language.
wow, pedantic bs! You're going to make a brilliant unrpoductive parasi-uh, lawyer.

How you must hate life.
only the people
 
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basically because that is a dreaful way of running an economy and would greatly diminish the standard of living for millions of people
sorry I don't understand how workers being able have control over the means of production results in what you say happening
 

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