Lecture notes enuf? (1 Viewer)

[Tabris]

Just wandering, many of the lectueres cut corners in the lectuers and turn 80 pges to 20 slides of PPT, are the suff we copy down from elctures enuff or do we have to summarise the readings in the textbook.... which in some cases is liek 50+ for ECON110, and ltos of corners have been cut

Even if we do study the notes from the lectures, is it enough to perform well in the finals?

 

[Supra]

actually thats a good question coz i dont really know how to study for these uni subjects, high school was easy to study for...but uni is diff...my guess would b to make ur notes according to the textbook and incorporate the lecture material..which is a lot of work in econ110..

 

[MaryJane]

Generally, I've found that you'd get a solid P, maybe a low Cr with just lecture notes. If anything, reading and taking notes from a textbook extends your knowledge, so while you might not be tested on it explicitly, and would still pass without reading it, its best to do it... if you have the time (they like it when you mention academic names eg. authors). Just work systematically: everytime you read a chapter from your text, type up notes as you go (or underline and then come back and type it up) and then print them off! Probably the most important thing to read are the course notes (if you have them) with readings because in most arts subjects they ask you questions on terms and ideas mentioned specifically in a reading, and if you havent read it, you're screwed.

 

[jlh]

you don't have to copy down everything that the lecturer puts up....
uh.. i guess you learn as you go thru uni, what info is important and what info is just clutter...

the way i do it is, if i don't understand what was said in the lecture, i'd read up on it. otherwise, i'd just rely on my lecture notes... it cuts down alot of reading time, especially since i don't like to study!!

 

[iambored]

Generally, I've found that you'd get a solid P, maybe a low Cr with just lecture notes.

I don't agree. For the purposes of answering the first posters question the best i can, i will say I have managed Ds or higher in all my first year subjects that give lecture notes, without touching a textbook.

the key is to use their notes as a basis and TAKE MORE NOTES to make sure you understand their notes FULLY. many people take down just the main points, you need to take down the examples as well. (yes you end up with something like a transcript of the lecture ). if there are pics they put up that are not in the lecture notes take down the reference and copy the pic into your study notes.

you also need to LEARN the notes before the exam and not just read though them. if you don't understand something or you don't get enough notes listen to the lecture again. it's time consuming but so is doing hundreds of pages of readings that you don't actually need.

but check with your lecturer. if they say something along the lines of "we like you to have the text to extend your knowledge but you won't be tested on the extra things that are in the text but not in the lecture notes" then it means you don't need the text and you don't need to do readings.

 

[Cyan_phoeniX]

it really depends on the subject. You definitely have to do further reading for ancient history units if you want to get a D-HD

STAT and PSYCH are units were you could get away with just reading lecture notes and get a D-HD, but your sort of pushing it for the latter.

 

[MaryJane]

Hmmm... maybe its all just different learning styles. I find I hardly concentrate in lectures and only note the key concepts, which might explain my thoughts on lecture notes. I think they're crappy. So maybe you could get a D with lecture notes, but, given my experience with a friend who relied solely on lecture notes and only got P's and thus dropped uni, I highly doubt it. I feel safer reading the texts and taking my own notes because I can understand them and remember the info better.

 

[iambored]

yep it's all in the learning styles i think. most people i know also only take the bare minimum of notes on their lecture notes. i spend a lot of time on mine, because i can't be bothered to do readings and if i did i would feel like i have to summarise the text, when the lecturer has done it for me in their lecture.

tabris, the first thing to do is find out your lecturer's thoughts, the next is to see what works for you. i originally intended on summarising texts, when i realised i couldn't be stuffed to, i found lecture notes were fine

 

[AsyLum]

Who needs lecture notes?

iLectures

 

[flyin']

Who needs lecture notes?

iLectures

iLectures are great... download (on dial-up for 3 hours for a 2 hour lecture), press play, jot down notes, pause, jot down more notes, play an mp3... get something eat, sit back... back to iLecture =p

As for reading: do it, if you don't understand the material. Otherwise, there are better things to do with your time. Read textbook for Econ110, or skim it. Econ110 isn't hard (especially when the first 6 weeks is really one concept - that graph with aggregate something line and something sector model).

 

[iambored]

ilectures are fantastic. for harder subjects/lectures i do what you said flyin', listen, pause, listen, pause, it gives me time to take in what they are saying, make notes and understand everything. problem is a one hour lecture takes me 2, a 2hour lecture has taken me 2 days so far (i do a tiny bit at a time, but doing a tiny bit is better than noting)

 

[jlh]

yeah it took me almost 2 hrs to get thru a 50 minute lecture....
oh and for all you dial ups out there, theres some ilecture computers avaliable for use at the library!!

 

[AsyLum]

Or alternatively purchase a wireless thingy, and sit out the front of mq >

 

[Tabris]

Just asking, wahta re your study/notetaking habits and how well u performed in the course by using these habits?

 

[choco]

are all subjects on i lecture?...only some right?

 

[iambored]

are all subjects on i lecture?...only some right?

most should be, check your webct


what's a wireless thingy you can purchase?


the comps in the library are well worth it, it takes a minute to download a lecture

 

[Skittled]

Or alternatively purchase a wireless thingy, and sit out the front of mq >

Where? You mean there's free wireless internet access somewhere? Or you talking about those unwired/iburst ISPs?

 

[choco]

wish busl250
was on ilectures and econ200..( however lecturer said lectures in e7b were recorded?...anyideas?)

 

[Tabris]

I posted a message for Alex Blair in the ECON110 forums

well apparently if it aint covered in the lecture and its in the textbook, it is assumed that we have read it and understand it either by reading it again and again or not take the whole chapters down.

Tats alot of work, 10 pages on computer is like 85 in textbook, hopefully this aint the same as accg100

Check the ECOn110 forums under "Questions to Alex" and the post "Lecture and textbook study" if u have acess to it

 

[AsyLum]

Where? You mean there's free wireless internet access somewhere? Or you talking about those unwired/iburst ISPs?

Haha, im assuming the comp labs have wireless, just needs a valid login