Mastering English = Possible? (2 Viewers)

[Finx]

Hey, I had taken a break from this site for a while, but now I'm back for a query!

I've browsed several threads on this forum and found a common problem in some students - their problems with English.

I want to see if there is someone out there who is actually "mastering English". I'm talking about someone who scores near full marks in their essays, gets top marks in extenstion etc. If so, how do you do it?

OR, is English actually a 'masterable subject' at all?

 

[the name i want]

It's because majority on here are asian, no offence. A girl in my year got 100% in few essays ect and for half yearly got like 98%.

 

[Finx]

It's because majority on here are asian, no offence. A girl in my year got 100% in few essays ect and for half yearly got like 98%.

Although quite general, this is probably true - however, I'm sure that there would be some non-asian students who also find English a grueling subject.

 

[Aerath]

Yes it is. Even for Asians.

 

[kaz1]

It's impossible. It depends if the teacher likes you.

 

[Finx]

It's impossible. It depends if the teacher likes you.

See, this is what I'm talking about.

It's so common for people to try incredibly hard in English and still fail in their expectation.

I could write a tl;dr version of how English is all about opinion, where there is never a 'right' answer, how the concept is too broad to be marked, etc etc etc.

I want to know how the top English students get where they are.

 

[veloc1ty]

Learn how to structure an essay.

Precise thesis (3 lines max) then hit up with context, techniques etc (varies depending on question, text etc of course) and make sure you include links between texts. Also, make it personal by using me, my and I, markers like that now.

 

[kaz1]

Fucking hell, people like you shit me off royally.

ari89 mastered English.

Pretty obvious you didn't master English, "shit me off".

 

[Aplus]

What do you mean, is mastering English possible? Sorry, but it's a pretty stupid comment if you think English is impossible to master.

 

[Finx]

What do you mean, is mastering English possible? Sorry, but it's a pretty stupid comment if you think English is impossible to master.

I say this with (most likely) many people who agree with the statement.

English is SUCH a broad subject. Your ideas are being evaluated. Ideas reflect opinion, which reflects your own state of mind and how you see things. It can be common for people to be marked down due to their difference of opinion compared to the marker.

Don't tell me that 'backing up your ideas' will fix the problem. It's very possible for markers to still disagree with your thoughts.

 

[st1m]

It's impossible. It depends if the teacher likes you.

agreed.

 

[Aerath]

agreed.

And what about at our school, where we don't put classes or names on our papers, but numbers? Can you still say: "Oh, the teacher doesn't like me?"

 

[Rhanoct]

English is impossible to master in school if you haven't been reading and writing it (alot) for at least 5 years.

 

[foram]

English is impossible to master in school if you haven't been reading and writing it (alot) for at least 5 years.

more like, 3.022 x10^23 years. english is entirely dependant to nthe marker. grrr.

 

[kaz1]

And what about at our school, where we don't put classes or names on our papers, but numbers? Can you still say: "Oh, the teacher doesn't like me?"

What if the teacher knows your number?

 

[Finx]

more like, 3.022 x10^23 years. english is entirely dependant to nthe marker. grrr.

Don't you mean 6.022x10^23? Avagadro's number, amirite?

What if the teacher knows your number?

Why would you give your number to a teacher who hates you?

 

[bored of sc]

It is definitely possible.

 

[Aerath]

What if the teacher knows your number?

Well, the process is, it goes through one teacher, with only the number on it. Then it's double marked by the next teacher, and is your marks are then averaged (unless the two teachers are out by more than 3 marks, then it's marked by another teacher). After all the numbers are written in pen on the paper, another teacher then prints out a list of student numbers, and starts writing the students' names on the paper. Then they're organised into classes, and handed out etc.

There are hardly any ways teachers can jip the system. And even if they could, there's no reason why they'd want to. It irks me that people who don't do well in English, generally blame anyone but themselves, whether it be their school, or their teachers. Blame yourselves, because 95% of the time, it's your fault (ie. you wrote a shit essay/short story) - not the fact that the teacher that marked it doesn't like you.

 

[jellybelly59]

Well, the process is, it goes through one teacher, with only the number on it. Then it's double marked by the next teacher, and is your marks are then averaged (unless the two teachers are out by more than 3 marks, then it's marked by another teacher). After all the numbers are written in pen on the paper, another teacher then prints out a list of student numbers, and starts writing the students' names on the paper. Then they're organised into classes, and handed out etc.

There are hardly any ways teachers can jip the system. And even if they could, there's no reason why they'd want to. It irks me that people who don't do well in English, generally blame anyone but themselves, whether it be their school, or their teachers. Blame yourselves, because 95% of the time, it's your fault (ie. you wrote a shit essay/short story) - not the fact that the teacher that marked it doesn't like you.

+1

 

[kaz1]

Well, the process is, it goes through one teacher, with only the number on it. Then it's double marked by the next teacher, and is your marks are then averaged (unless the two teachers are out by more than 3 marks, then it's marked by another teacher). After all the numbers are written in pen on the paper, another teacher then prints out a list of student numbers, and starts writing the students' names on the paper. Then they're organised into classes, and handed out etc.

There are hardly any ways teachers can jip the system. And even if they could, there's no reason why they'd want to. It irks me that people who don't do well in English, generally blame anyone but themselves, whether it be their school, or their teachers. Blame yourselves, because 95% of the time, it's your fault (ie. you wrote a shit essay/short story) - not the fact that the teacher that marked it doesn't like you.

Fair enough.

+1

I swear to god these piss me off.