Med or dentistry (1 Viewer)

[frostysnow]

I've received a offer for dentistry at UQ and a bonded position at U adelaide.
DOn't know which to pick. Any ideas?

QUestions that could be considered
- which state has cheaper housing and more employment oppotunities?
- which uni is better?

here is my list of pros and cons, so far

MED
pros
- more emotionally rewarding
- more variety, and can pick specially

cons
- bonded -so may have family issues later, but have a possibility of it changing to unbonded if other people drop out
- have to study for many more years


Dentistry
pro
- better pay
- shorter course/ study time

Cons
- what if i don't enjoy it? lack variety

 

[Paradox1345]

Aw... I'm so envious that you are able to choose between these two courses.

If it was me, I would choose medicine. Even though its bonded.

 

[x.Exhaust.x]

Yeah, go for Medicine Paradox (But that's my own bias).

 

[RogueAcademic]

I've received a offer for dentistry at UQ and a bonded position at U adelaide.
DOn't know which to pick. Any ideas? Also does anyone know which uni is better?

You can specialise in dentistry too.

But if you were to choose med, what specialist area do you think you'd go into?

 

[lifequest]

Removing all bias from what I'm doing, I would say you should go with what you want.

However, the above cliche statement really doesn't help much from what I could garner from your post.

Your cons for dentistry isn't really a "CON", it is a question that plagues all courses amongst ALL students. It's the same as pondering "what if I don't live up to 80 years old?" - a time-consuming unhelpfully-aggravating question, IMHO.

There are MANY MANY specialty in Dentistry (80% of which I did not even know about!).

Do not accept your Medicine place if you are hoping to get a successful transfer into a non-bonded place. Remember that everyone in your course are highly competitive and the university does not favour bonded to non-bonded transfers. Universities that offer Medicine have a duty to make sure that they are contributing to the lack of health professions in rural areas.

A 6 year bond is VERY VERY PAINFUL if you are use to metropolitan life style.
Note that you graduate at 23-24. Between 24-30 (your bonded years) are your PRIME years!
You've just graduated, FRESH, looking for/already have a girlfriend/boyfriend. Problems will exponentially increase!
You see your family less, your partner is situated 3-6 hours drive (or a plane trip) away.
You have limited access to mobile reception, SLOW internet...the list goes on.

Take the easy life, go Dentistry. That's my two cents.

 

[partelephant]

If there's an option at Adelaide to accept the position for now and then accept an unbonded place if it becomes available then I'd take that (regardless, as they are in 2 different states you can accept both for the meantime and I *think* you can subsequently pull out anytime before the census date - usually a couple of weeks into uni - without penalty). Adelaide is notorious for the number of people (especially interstaters) who reject first round offers (last year I think around 70 interstaters rejected their first round offers) so the chances of you getting upgraded to an unbonded spot are VERY high.

 

[RogueAcademic]

A 6 year bond is VERY VERY PAINFUL if you are use to metropolitan life style.
Note that you graduate at 23-24. Between 24-30 (your bonded years) are your PRIME years!
You've just graduated, FRESH, looking for/already have a girlfriend/boyfriend. Problems will exponentially increase!
You see your family less, your partner is situated 3-6 hours drive (or a plane trip) away.
You have limited access to mobile reception, SLOW internet...the list goes on.

Take the easy life, go Dentistry. That's my two cents.

That's very good advice. On the other hand, I also know people who are very very sure that medicine is a career that they really really want. And doing medicine, under whatever circumstances is the only thing that will make them happy and feel fulfilled. So they would always choose medicine no matter what the conditions are, because it'll make them happy.

 

[lionking1191]

A 6 year bond is VERY VERY PAINFUL if you are use to metropolitan life style.
Note that you graduate at 23-24. Between 24-30 (your bonded years) are your PRIME years!
You've just graduated, FRESH, looking for/already have a girlfriend/boyfriend. Problems will exponentially increase!
You see your family less, your partner is situated 3-6 hours drive (or a plane trip) away.
You have limited access to mobile reception, SLOW internet...the list goes on.

Take the easy life, go Dentistry. That's my two cents.

true. but as said above if you are really in for med it isn't much of a sacrifice. to be fair 'bonded to a place of work shortage' isn't as bad it sounds. firstly you get to choose the place u want to work in, and they are not all rural remote towns in the middle of nowhere. places such as central coast and eastern suburbs are on the list and most are very nice places.

in the end the question you should ask yoruself is do you wnat to be a doctor or a dentist.

another thing is that you could nominate to complete your intern years in one of those places, so that takes 3 years off your 6. or you could leave it after if u want to complete your internship in a 'good' hospital. it's up to you

 

[frostysnow]

If there's an option at Adelaide to accept the position for now and then accept an unbonded place if it becomes available then I'd take that (regardless, as they are in 2 different states you can accept both for the meantime and I *think* you can subsequently pull out anytime before the census date - usually a couple of weeks into uni - without penalty). Adelaide is notorious for the number of people (especially interstaters) who reject first round offers (last year I think around 70 interstaters rejected their first round offers) so the chances of you getting upgraded to an unbonded spot are VERY high.

are you sure i can agree to both and then pull out? but it only means i have to decide between med and dentistry later tho anyway

 

[Deltan]

What does bonded mean?

the cons i could think for dentistry is that it could be boring ; repetitive work and getting creeped out looking at elderly's teeth but the pros outweight the cons

i personally go for dent for money and lifestyle

 

[RogueAcademic]

the cons i could think for dentistry is .. getting creeped out looking at elderly's teeth

Spend a day at a hospital, particularly at the ER and I guarantee you'll see much much 'creepier' things than 'elderly's teeth'.

 

[lifequest]

Spend a day at a hospital, particularly at the ER and I guarantee you'll see much much 'creepier' things than 'elderly's teeth'.

HAHAHA that's true!
I had my work experience in there...*shudders*
Especially the mental ward.

While I wholeheartedly sympathize for them, they just give me a feeling that I'd get stabbed with a pen and bashed to death with a clipboard if I was to be left alone...X_X

 

[lifequest]

true. but as said above if you are really in for med it isn't much of a sacrifice. to be fair 'bonded to a place of work shortage' isn't as bad it sounds. firstly you get to choose the place u want to work in, and they are not all rural remote towns in the middle of nowhere. places such as central coast and eastern suburbs are on the list and most are very nice places.

in the end the question you should ask yoruself is do you wnat to be a doctor or a dentist.

another thing is that you could nominate to complete your intern years in one of those places, so that takes 3 years off your 6. or you could leave it after if u want to complete your internship in a 'good' hospital. it's up to you

While true to the word, my personal experiences with moving to a rural area (for uni since la trobe is in woopi-di-woop-woop) has not been all that pleasant. Sure I meet new friends, but my relationship with my ex-gf was strained and snapped by sheer physical separation.

In my opinion, the dedication and devotion to Medicine is general a "kill or die trying". If you are on the fence, then maybe the 6 years may not be wise. (Even if intern takes 3 years off, you're interning at 24-27 Y.O regardless).

If all else fails, listen to the coin

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

adelaide is bastard uni

lately lots of failers

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

A 6 year bond is VERY VERY PAINFUL if you are use to metropolitan life style.
Note that you graduate at 23-24. Between 24-30 (your bonded years) are your PRIME years!
You've just graduated, FRESH, looking for/already have a girlfriend/boyfriend. Problems will exponentially increase!
You see your family less, your partner is situated 3-6 hours drive (or a plane trip) away.
You have limited access to mobile reception, SLOW internet...the list goes on.

-bonded years tend to be around 30-40 not in the 20's cause you need to have your fellowship ( you can serve 1 or 2 yrs when ur a senior registrar)

-the bonds are to RRMA 2 and lower (i.e 3,4,5).... on MRBS (scholarship) its RRMA 4-7... the RRMA 2 areas would be lik windsor/penrith for GP.. and for real in need specialities.. it might be lik within 10km of sydney city.

-Give Adelaide time they should upgrade to unbonded in a matter of weeks.

- dent/med argument can go on for yonks..
-- dent has the mouth.... med has all the other orifices (aka holes)... take your pick what you can handle
-- there is less critical appraisal in dent
-- there is too much critical appraisal in med
--money is about the same..

 

[luxslash89]

MED
pros
- more emotionally rewarding
- more variety, and can pick specially

cons
- bonded -so may have family issues later, but have a possibility of it changing to unbonded if other people drop out
- have to study for many more years

Dentistry
pro
- better pay
- shorter course/ study time

Cons
- what if i don't enjoy it? lack variety

Just follow your interest, thats wats most important. Its obvious, but the reason I'm saying it is cus looking at your pros and cons, they focus on everything BUT, in my opinion. For example, there's alot of people who want to study dentistry (like me), and I wouldn't want someone to fill out my place who chose dentistry jus cus it's shorter & higher pay(<-and this remark is too defining)