MQ Chatter Thread (5 Viewers)

[thor1990]

I agree to this. All my classes so far have discussed and emphasised the changes to the assessment policy, but none have mentioned changes to the grading policy.

Based on the fact we haven't been told to the contrary, I'd say the policy hasn't changed.

Yeah its confusing cause they are only talking about the changes to the assessment policy but not the grading policy changes. I spoke to my lecturer this morning and he has said that we no longer get a mark.

Pisses me of so much much as now if you get a 64 or 63 you wont see that on your transcript youll just see a pass and have the same grade as someone who got a 50, same if you get a 73 same as someone who got 65. Hopefully my lecturer is just confused and is wrong

 

[ilikecats]

The current grading policy - In effect from Semester 2, 2016
http://mq.edu.au/policy/docs/assessment/schedule_1.html

"2.2 The attainment (or otherwise) of learning outcomes for units of study are reported:

(i) by grade and mark: the mark and grade must correspond as indicated in the Schedule below; or

(ii) by grade only: the grade should be either Satisfactory or Fail."

There is nothing in the current policy that states you only receive a letter final grade. You should receive a numerical value as well. Your lecturer is definitely confused.

It is possible you have a pass/fail unit, in which case you don't receive a mark, just "satisfactory" or "fail"

 

[ilikecats]

Additonally:
GPA calculation for students who commence at Macquarie University from 1 January 2017 and onwards
For students who commence at Macquarie University from 1 January 2017, their GPA will be calculated on a 7-point scale as detailed below:

http://mq.edu.au/policy/docs/assessment/schedule_1.html

From 2017, MQ will be using a 7 point scale for GPA for new students.

 

[thor1990]

Thanks for that. Now I don't know what to believe lol, cause it definitely reads like we get a mark and a grade.

They have removed this paragraph which was on the old grading policy:
STANDARDISED NUMERICAL GRADE (SNG)
The number assigned to a grade, known as the Standardised Numerical Grade (SNG) reflects the extent to which student attainment matches the descriptors. For example, an SNG of 65 demonstrates performance that shows the achievement of the minimum set of attributes that satisfy the credit standard; an SNG of 70 demonstrates the achievement of a credit standard above the minimum but below the level of the distinction standard; an SNG of 75 is a performance that shows the achievement of the minimum set of attributes that satisfy the distinction standard.

 

[ilikecats]

If you want to be certain, make a submission through ask.mq.edu.au and/or email the unit coordinator.

Obviously there is confusion and rumours and students may not understand they policy changes.

The only thing I just noticed join re reading the policy again is 2.3 Grades for all individual assessment tasks will be released to students; it is not essential to also release the mark.

This seems to imply that an individual assessment merely needs a HD/D/P etc grade, and a numerical value doesn't not need to be released. Grade specifically refers to the alphabetical value, and range/mark are numerical.

It clearly states final grades are Grade AND Mark, or Grade (Satisfactory/Fail) . Individual assessments can just have a grade, but on your transcript, you will get a number aligning to your result.

 

[thor1990]

Also an update, I called the Faculty of Business and Economics and the lady said its become some grey area, where now some lecturers will only give a grade others may give a mark and some may give both but she said she wasn't 100% sure as it happened recently and will get back to me. She also said there is a push for the faculty to keep it consistent and will speak to the convenors on this soon who will update the students shortly.

Please let me know if you hear anything from your lecturers next week.

 

[thor1990]

If you want to be certain, make a submission through ask.mq.edu.au and/or email the unit coordinator.

Obviously there is confusion and rumours and students may not understand they policy changes.

The only thing I just noticed join re reading the policy again is 2.3 Grades for all individual assessment tasks will be released to students; it is not essential to also release the mark.

This seems to imply that an individual assessment merely needs a HD/D/P etc grade, and a numerical value doesn't not need to be released. Grade specifically refers to the alphabetical value, and range/mark are numerical.

It clearly states final grades are Grade AND Mark, or Grade (Satisfactory/Fail) . Individual assessments can just have a grade, but on your transcript, you will get a number aligning to your result.

I think you just hit the nail on the head. We get a mark and grade at the end of the semester but may not necessarily get both for individual assessments.

 

[BLIT2014]

I swear none of my lecturers have really mentioned any of the changes :/

 

[thor1990]

I swear none of my lecturers have really mentioned any of the changes :/

They put it at the bottom of the unit guides in the Policies and procedures section.

I think that's what originally caused me to panic because the unit guides state "Grading Policy prior to Session 2 2016 http://mq.edu.au/policy/docs/grading/policy.html" implying there was a new grading policy this semester.

 

[ilikecats]

Both my classes today I had my lecturer/uc as my tutor.

Goodbye, anonymity!

 

[ilikecats]

Oh my god. I got the same awful accg224 tutor as last semester.

Sent an email to change classes, thankfully they moved me.

He even came up to me at the end of class and said "Maybe you should request a different tutor for a new learning experience". He knows I hate him. (Do you think the death staring or the sarcasm tipped him off?)

 

[thor1990]

hahaha you need to improve those death staring skills to make it more subtle

 

[ilikecats]

I wasn't trying to be subtle though.

 

[BLIT2014]

Oh my god. I got the same awful accg224 tutor as last semester.

Sent an email to change classes, thankfully they moved me.

He even came up to me at the end of class and said "Maybe you should request a different tutor for a new learning experience". He knows I hate him. (Do you think the death staring or the sarcasm tipped him off?)

Well let's hope that you don't end up getting someone worse!

 

[ilikecats]

I ended up messaging my friends from our class last semester.
Turns out one of them failed also (I know of about 7 people who failed, which is really odd because I know nobody) and he's in the tutorial I've moved too. Hes had that tutor before and says they aren't bad.

I hope he's right! To be fair, you really can't get much worse than the guy I had.

 

[ilikecats]

Looks like conception day is back...

Well an event with the word conception is anyway

 

[BLIT2014]

Looks like conception day is back...

Well an event with the word conception is anyway

Well we will need to wait to hear the acts that they are bringing

 

[BLIT2014]

Does anyone know how long we get to answer the online Business Law quizzes?

 

[thor1990]

Sorry no idea. Haven't done it

 

[ilikecats]

I took Business Law that long ago I couldn't tell you, sorry!

Also it's really hitting home that I have been at uni forever. Busl250 was in 2013!!!



On another note, my new accg224 tutor is much better than my old one. The only problem is my class in tiny, nobody talks, and she reminds me of one of those parents who push their kids really hard and are disappointed with anything less than becoming a doctor. I actually learnt something in class though, so that was nice I guess.