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[withoutaface]

But Israel have the earliest religious claim to the land (in the old testament), whereas the Palestinians only got their claim thousands of years later.

 

[googooloo]

But Israel have the earliest religious claim to the land (in the old testament), whereas the Palestinians only got their claim thousands of years later.

You see in Islam, we believe our religion is just a follow up of the others (meaning judaism adn chrisitnaity)...the other prophets only came due to the others corrupting and altering gods message given to them. So therefore, the claim the jews have ot the land, the convenant that they made with god would therefor be broken, otherwise their would only be judaism and there would have been no need for anymore prophets. And god said if you break the covanent then you would not get the land given to you, and you would struggle where ever you went. So therefore, in keeping iwth Islam, and how it came to be adn why more prophets came, you can say jews somewhere along the line broke their covenant, and then more prophets, yada yada yada.....so christianity and judaism were correct once, but not now, now it is Islam...you understand?


So therefore, they no longer have a claim on thier own. Who is there now, the palastinians, have the claim now. therefore the sheik is correct in syaing that if israel is oppressing palastinians then they have the right ot rise up, and the only way to them happens to be through suicide bombing. I still don't agree, I'd never do it that's for sure!

In a perfect world, we wouldn't have needed all the prophets we did, but if the world became perfect, everyone should have continued through to ISlam. That is it. And there sin't anymore..ba bum bum bum1 (madeline animation show tune)

 

[veterandoggy]

ha ha ha. It will be interesting to see what he says to this.

ha ha ha. i never saw the funny side of it, but i dont need to repeat what googooloo said now, should i?

 

[SashatheMan]

pagans believed in many gods, and christianity stole stuff from past pagan religions. that means originally pagans were right about many gods. How can many gods turn into one.

 

[googooloo]

pagans believed in many gods, and christianity stole stuff from past pagan religions. that means originally pagans were right about many gods. How can many gods turn into one.

So are you pagan then? Muhammad(PBUH) came along do to this, alteration, in the religion. What I just talked about.

 

[withoutaface]

You see in Islam, we believe our religion is just a follow up of the others (meaning judaism adn chrisitnaity)...the other prophets only came due to the others corrupting and altering gods message given to them. So therefore, the claim the jews have ot the land, the convenant that they made with god would therefor be broken, otherwise their would only be judaism and there would have been no need for anymore prophets. And god said if you break the covanent then you would not get the land given to you, and you would struggle where ever you went. So therefore, in keeping iwth Islam, and how it came to be adn why more prophets came, you can say jews somewhere along the line broke their covenant, and then more prophets, yada yada yada.....so christianity and judaism were correct once, but not now, now it is Islam...you understand?


So therefore, they no longer have a claim on thier own. Who is there now, the palastinians, have the claim now. therefore the sheik is correct in syaing that if israel is oppressing palastinians then they have the right ot rise up, and the only way to them happens to be through suicide bombing. I still don't agree, I'd never do it that's for sure!

In a perfect world, we wouldn't have needed all the prophets we did, but if the world became perfect, everyone should have continued through to ISlam. That is it. And there sin't anymore..ba bum bum bum1 (madeline animation show tune)

Under your view system it would, but not under the Jewish one. There is no way to determine which is more valid to an impartial observer, and hence the earlier claim takes precedence.

 

[Jordan.J]

But Israel have the earliest religious claim to the land (in the old testament), whereas the Palestinians only got their claim thousands of years later.

This is wrong
Goliath was Palestinian in the story of David and Goliath
Palestinians have always been there and never left

If you add up all the years the Palestinians and Jews have settled in that land, the Jews will be only have a few hundred years while the Palestinian will have thousands of years

 

[Jordan.J]

Under your view system it would, but not under the Jewish one. There is no way to determine which is more valid to an impartial observer, and hence the earlier claim takes precedence.

No, the existing one takes precedence

 

[googooloo]

You kno what I think? I think the Allies shouldn't ahve been so careless in giving the Jews Israel. They didn't want them so they dumped them where they did and left them to themselves, or to sort out the mess they created, just like america, now you know where americans got it from, england! it mus be in the genes! (sarcasm)

 

[Gay Captain]

Googooo... etc. :

So what if another prophet came, thereby rendering Islam invalid? What would you think of that?

 

[googooloo]

It is not possible since there are no more prophets, if someone claimed to be so he would be false.

 

[Jordan.J]

Googooo... etc. :

So what if another prophet came, thereby rendering Islam invalid? What would you think of that?

We belive Muhammad (pbuh) is the last prophet, so hence that prophet will be invalid

 

[Not-That-Bright]

They didn't want them

Not true what-so-ever.

 

[withoutaface]

This is wrong
Goliath was Palestinian in the story of David and Goliath
Palestinians have always been there and never left

If you add up all the years the Palestinians and Jews have settled in that land, the Jews will be only have a few hundred years while the Palestinian will have thousands of years

Completely wrong, Goliath was a Phillistine, who has no link to the Palestinians, and the Palestinian national identity was formed well after the Muslims invaded the Jews land in ~900AD.

 

[SashatheMan]

It is not possible since there are no more prophets, if someone claimed to be so he would be false.

so your saying that the previous prophets when they preached, basicly said, "look we are not the final prophets , and someone better then us will come and be more correct then what we told man kind?"

or what makes muhammad the final prophet? each pervious one thought they were correct, it must only mean that someone easily can take muhammads job as the next prophet

 

[veterandoggy]

but dont forget that the jews were exiled from there for like 60 years i think, and from what we believe this is because they disobeyed allah, and he forbade the entry to that landby those people (60 years would have ensured that only the next generation would be entering it, and anyone from the old generation would be too old to celebrate its recapture.)

i think this was before islam though. now if only a jew got off their but and did a little typing...

 

[veterandoggy]

so your saying that the previous prophets when they preached, basicly said, "look we are not the final prophets , and someone better then us will come and be more correct then what we told man kind?"

or what makes muhammad the final prophet? each pervious one thought they were correct, it must only mean that someone easily can take muhammads job as the next prophet

they never said that they were the last prophets, muhammad did. and at the time the respective religions WERE correct. it was until they became corrupted that a new prophet would have been sent down to correct the people.

 

[SashatheMan]

they never said that they were the last prophets, muhammad did. and at the time the respective religions WERE correct. it was until they became corrupted that a new prophet would have been sent down to correct the people.

extremists and suicide bombers are the result of a corrupted islamic religion. therefore a new prophet is needed, someone who can provide revelations that are not prone to interpretations of people martyring themselves in shopping malls.

 

[veterandoggy]

extremists and suicide bombers are the result of a corrupted islamic religion. therefore a new prophet is needed, someone who can provide revelations that are not prone to interpretations of people martyring themselves in shopping malls.

... and hence the appearance of mahdi is ever more likely.

 

[SashatheMan]

... and hence the appearance of mahdi is ever more likely.

No hence your claim of muhammad being the final prophet is incorrect, and its just as likely for soemone else to say they are the next true prophet