"Go through his posts then and point out where his logic is flawed."
Why are you even asking him to when i do it every now and again, must we be a slave forced to go over every one of his posts and then quote them and then tell the posters why his posts are flawed and false?
" have debated with you before and rebutted your raving rants quite easily. You do not properly rebut me... at all... ever. You just insult me, as a few muslims have in different threads when I engage in argument with them."
What more can i say except that you are wrong, you don't rebutt me, you just see a lot of typing and call it a rant. Then you try to seem above it by posting a laugh and suddenly you consider it a worthy rebuttle. When you give me nothing, except a faulty statement, all i can do is say that it is crap, if you give me a history of crap responses i say that you have a history of crap responses. You used to make some sense earlier on, eventually you just seemed to disagree with me in principal, even when i agreed with you, you managed to find something i say and make it seem wrong by calling it wrong.
"Go back and read my debates against him... I rebut, try to be sensible... he just keeps insulting me and carrying on as he does. You judge for yourself."
No i do not insult you, but when something is senseless i can only call it that, all you do is play devil's advocate, what ever we say, for no reason what so ever you senselessly quote it and then say that its wrong, and sometimes you may make a false analogy or example, which is not related in actuality, and when notified of that fact, you may go quiet for a while or just laugh. And an insult of calling it "crap" or "stupid" is the only apt reaction.
"No shit, Sherlock. He's also stated why: because they deny freedoms."
again, exactly what type of freedoms do they deny? and if they do, who says that its right? The reason that a "muslim country" would deny freedoms would be the same as why "North Korea" would deny freedoms or why a corrupt african state would deny freedoms.
Not that bright mentioned IRAN, whatever views you have about their so called "religious state" i will most probably agree with you. However you still seem to deny the fact that their actions and policies are unislamic.....its unislamic to want all jews dead and crap like that....
"You haven't seen people attacking hillsong? Attacking the christian church? Attacking mormons? O RLY?"
when i said "attacking islam" i meant it in the context of people almost being afraid to live in a suburb with a muslim neighbour.....sure the mormons and christians and whatever get criticized as do all institutions, however it seems like this particular thread and others like it start with a general belief that it would be a bad thing to have a muslim in your neighbourhood.
"As I've explained 1,000,000,000,000 times.. as there is no real good definition of what islam is (no there's not) we have to judge islam on the basis of what its leaders, followers, governments currently do in the contemporary world."
well if that aint obvious, there are violent jews and non-violent ones, there are violent aethiests and non-violent ones. Why are you comparing Sufism with radicalism... i know many Muslims that make light of the terrorists or radicals since they are so stupid into thinking they are doing something good. There could be one definition or 10, however people will continue to interpret it differently.
also, what part of "there is no compulsion in religion" do you not understand, its in the Koran, and if a muslim chooses to ignore it, and then force another to become muslim or threaten to hurt him, i dont know why he would consider himself a muslim.
