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You're right. NSW Liberals are more fucked up right now than NSW Labor (at least Labor has some gooduns in there like Tebbutt etc. the Liberals just have O'Farrell and then a bunch of fuckheads no better than Tripodi). They just don't have the same media attention. The power privatisation issue which destroyed Labor's standing with the population is something the Liberals will get through, whereas clearly Labor never can.

I think over the past 20 years both parties have made a mess of the state. So Greens have my vote, in the hope that more people do like me and the result is something akin to the ACT election. I'll with a heavy heart preference Labor over Liberal though, because the Liberals have the same incompotence and corruption but a more fucked ideology.

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I'm going to vote for Greens, just because Liberal and Labor are so fucked up. I don't actually want a Greens government though, so it's mostly just a protest vote and a call for them to focus more on the environment.
I would, however, like it if the state upper house was abolished, local councils were de-politicised and and a federal MP had to serve a minimum of one term in a state or territory seat first. If any candidate wants to introduce those reforms, then they have my vote.
I also like how Iron is the only one here who selected the Christian Democrats
 

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Nats cos they support the farmers and shit. Shooters maybe cos they are mad cunts and i also enjoy shooting things.
Well may you all say that if the answer is labor, it must have been a very silly question to begin with. But what has happened in the last two years, or six years that suddenly made those hapless liberals suddenly seem like the natural party of government? What radical change has swept through the ALP and or the opposition in those six years since Carr annihiliated Brodgen, where the NSW people said with incredible clarity "We believe labor would be better at governing NSW than the liberal party." I would suggest that there has been no radical change, I would suggest that NSW labor were doing no better six years ago and that the liberal party have not dramatically improved since then.

What we are witnessing today is not the most incompetent, hapless, immoral government NSW or any state has ever seen. Rather we are witnessing the oldest, most long serving government that any state has ever seen since the Queensland national party. Very few people anticipate a significant change for the better from a liberal government, rather they are just bored and tired of the same men doing the same jobs in the same way for so long and don't think the opposition would be much worse.

Such an approach however is dangerous and not in the interest of New South Wales. With the global credit crunch taking place NSW has suffered the worst of any state, being in significant debt allready. It now desperately relies upon funding from the Commonwealth, it desperately needs to cooperate with Canberra. A liberal state government is not going to cooperate easilly with Canberra, where issues of overlapping powers arise it will be bloody. Just when cooperation is crucial, you would elect within four years of each other strong adversaries to negotiate commonwealth funding in NSW. What idiosy.
 

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I would, however, like it if the state upper house was abolished
Why do you want to abolish the upper house? It's a house of review. Surely that's a good thing?
 

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Yeah but, they really couldn't be any worse. It's not possible. Nothing to lose.

It now desperately relies upon funding from the Commonwealth, it desperately needs to cooperate with Canberra. A liberal state government is not going to cooperate easilly with Canberra, where issues of overlapping powers arise it will be bloody. Just when cooperation is crucial, you would elect within four years of each other strong adversaries to negotiate commonwealth funding in NSW. What idiosy.
We survived 11 years of Howard Government with state labor, even wall-to-wall labor for a period, we'll survive the reverse.
 
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Yeah but, they really couldn't be any worse. It's not possible. Nothing to lose.


We survived 11 years of Howard Government with state labor, even wall-to-wall labor for a period, we'll survive the reverse.
What happened to NSW's budget in that time? NSW hospitals? NSW schools? NSW roads? NSW public transport? Are you telling me you want it to continue heading in the direction that it headed in for the 11 years of rival governance?
 

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Why do we need a house of review? It's the state government. Very little of what they control is important. They have virtually no power over taxes, spend most of their money just maintaining the status quo for state government departments and they don't control any crucial areas of the public sector. By reducing it to a uni-carmel system it would get rid off half of the bureaucracy, half the factionalism and half of the MPs.
In essence, my argument is that the size of state government is far bigger than it's responsibilities and actual power. Either we shrink the government or expand it's power, and I'm a firm believer in swapping many of the state government responsibilities to the federal level.
 

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Lentern you are an efficient Labor spin doctor but even you cannot spin that any other Government aside from the incumbent could be any worse. You would go a long, long way to find a more incompetent government.
 

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Hare Clark is a little bit different to single member electorates dude.
Actually, the NSW upper house is Hare Clark while the Greens will certainly get lower house seats under plurality preferential voting, with Liberals forming government.
 

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Why do we need a house of review? It's the state government. Very little of what they control is important. They have virtually no power over taxes, spend most of their money just maintaining the status quo for state government departments and they don't control any crucial areas of the public sector.
I'm pretty sure that's wrong. It might be true in Canada, where the constitution grants the Federal government all powers not explicitly granted to the States (Provinces) but in Australia it's the inverse.
 

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Lentern you are an efficient Labor spin doctor but even you cannot spin that any other Government aside from the incumbent could be any worse. You would go a long, long way to find a more incompetent government.
Not really. All you have to do is look at the opposition benches.
 

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Lentern you are an efficient Labor spin doctor but even you cannot spin that any other Government aside from the incumbent could be any worse. You would go a long, long way to find a more incompetent government.
My friend I am not a supporter of the Australian Labor Party I only have the interests of the state of NSW in mind. Tell me please what has labor done or stopped doing since 2003, that was not the case prior to that election where Bob Carr annihilated John Brogden? Because nobody was calling NSW labor useless and terrible then and as far as I can see there have been no radical changes in the way the party has run the state since then.
 

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moll said:
I also like how Iron is the only one here who selected the Christian Democrats
We need to face up to the fact that everything wrong in our modern society is the fault of those pesky Islams!
 

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