Old Kingdom Egypt (1 Viewer)

[omgd.]

Do any ex students have any information, or know good links to why & how O.K.E collapsed ?

ive been researching all wknd & im guessing either im not doing it right or there is a lack of information on the internet but i cant seem to find any thorough information on why and how it happened

its all vague
some are saying it startd during the 4th Dyn
some are saying it hpnd after Pepi II died
either way it doesn't really explain it properly, its only 5-6 lines long, def not enough to do an essay on. Theres only good site iv found, the BBC one, but i need more, so if anyone knows any, please let me know ?

Im seriously freaking out over this assessmnt now ! ><"

 

[xeuyrawp]

its all vague
some are saying it startd during the 4th Dyn
some are saying it hpnd after Pepi II died

Are you suggesting that we can't come to an agreement over what happened to a society over four-thousand years ago?!

The MQ resources are down atm, so I can't look online at, eg the Oxford Encyc. of Ancient Egypt (usually a good resource). The Lexikon der Ägyptologie article for the end of the Old Kingdom's in German, so hmm... Check out here, it's pretty good.

I'd try to at least get your hands on the Alred Old Kingdom book - although, if I remember correctly, he views that the collapse of the OK was solely based on political problems (which is contended).

If you need any specific help, yell out.

 

[omgd.]

Are you suggesting that we can't come to an agreement over what happened to a society over four-thousand years ago?!

The MQ resources are down atm, so I can't look online at, eg the Oxford Encyc. of Ancient Egypt (usually a good resource). The Lexikon der Ägyptologie article for the end of the Old Kingdom's in German, so hmm... Check out here, it's pretty good.

I'd try to at least get your hands on the Alred Old Kingdom book - although, if I remember correctly, he views that the collapse of the OK was solely based on political problems (which is contended).

If you need any specific help, yell out.

aw thanxx !
ah, yeah i catch ur drift =P loll
ill have a look at what uv given me noww,
so far iv realised its because of
- loss of power & stability of a centralized gov
- low inundation
- famine
- poverty
- i think war with the nubians ?

i think i have enough info on the others
esp from BBC - History - The Fall of the Egyptian Old Kingdom
i think it covers everything
im just stuck on the first one,
- loss of power & stability of a centralized gov
need to know specifically what happened theree
so if you knw anything abt that, please let me know if you dont mind
ill have a look at what you gave now though, and thanx heaps, v. appreciated ! =)

 

[xeuyrawp]

- loss of power & stability of a centralized gov
need to know specifically what happened theree
so if you knw anything abt that, please let me know if you dont mind
ill have a look at what you gave now though, and thanx heaps, v. appreciated ! =)

I've only studied the Old Kingdom superficially for one semester, and I basically on concentrated on the texts (pWestcar, Famine Stelae, autobiographies, etc), but...

Things to note:

- Opinions on the causes are VERY varied. Scholars like Miroslav Bárta argue that the causes were centred around the ecology - apparently there is evidence of lowering of the inundation. No good Nile = Egypt screwed. Remember that the Nile is 100% source of water for farmers.

- Towards the end of the OK, there was increase of bureaucracy. Basically, an extra vizier was added; more important posts (the like of Weni and Harkhuf held) were created in the south. There is evidence to show that important southerners (eg Weni) were educated in the north in order to indoctrinate them - the Egyptians themselves knew it was important to indoctrinate from an early age. However, this seems to have failed at the advent of the First Intermediate Period, where Egypt basically breaks up into multiple mini-kingdoms.

 

[omgd.]

I've only studied the Old Kingdom superficially for one semester, and I basically on concentrated on the texts (pWestcar, Famine Stelae, autobiographies, etc), but...

Things to note:

- Opinions on the causes are VERY varied. Scholars like Miroslav Bárta argue that the causes were centred around the ecology - apparently there is evidence of lowering of the inundation. No good Nile = Egypt screwed. Remember that the Nile is 100% source of water for farmers.

- Towards the end of the OK, there was increase of bureaucracy. Basically, an extra vizier was added; more important posts (the like of Weni and Harkhuf held) were created in the south. There is evidence to show that important southerners (eg Weni) were educated in the north in order to indoctrinate them - the Egyptians themselves knew it was important to indoctrinate from an early age. However, this seems to have failed at the advent of the First Intermediate Period, where Egypt basically breaks up into multiple mini-kingdoms.

oh thankk uu
il look up Miroslav Bárta
and i got to the maQ site that u mentioned earlierr,
browsing through it noww
thank uu