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atrial fibrillation ..
its the 'spasming' of the atria.. ure P waves are crazy..
 

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WhereTheF*ck are the SQUARES for the rhythm U NEED TAT FOR AF...
i dun care.. u can just look and compare all u want.. ill learn to intepret it properly with actualli physics and not wat some guy on the net sed :p

on that note.. my site.. www.inasero-is-da-weiner.com.au.. will be opening in summer 06

sed tat.. ure a cardiology poser :D
 

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Do either of you think maybe that when he drew it, he wasn't really INFORMED in any way? It's just meant to "look like" an ECG, not BE one. :p
 

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well fine then alvin u dont have to trust the net just ask your tutor...theres not squares and fair enough thats not an ECG...but if it was it would be AF...so get off your high horse and just admit it

btw alvin ur the poser im sorry to inform you...there is no rhythmical nature to AF
 

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errr ... no.. it basic ECGs... the diagnosis is the irregular irregular pattern of pulse .. confirmed with ECGs otherwise its an arrhytmia.. not indicating nothing.. :)

ok.. go with this.. WAT is ure basis for a AF? besides.. it looks lik one.. there are criterias :p
wat stops this being a heart block..?...

IMO i say insufficient evidence.. no grid.. no labels.. dude this could be an ECG of his computer.. for all i cared..
 

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i will find evidence for you that it is AF...
in response to your question there are three types of heart block and they are dependent on the ECG demonstrating at least some kind of sinus rhythm...you can't see any heart block here as there is no intrinsic rhythm
 

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actualli its 3 degrees..
1st deg PR>0.2 secs
2nd deg
3rd deg Complete.. forgot the criteria

2nd deg has 2 types.. I (decr freq of PR) and II (QRS:pR ratios) (mobitz)

all hav definitions.. its important to kno the definition..
i kno them off by heart.. cos i just did them ..
so show me ure evidence..
 

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i can see that you really dont belive this is an AF...and this argument is going nowhere so lets just agree to disagree aye? My evidence is one hundred years of clinical practice...

I know that's not a real ECG but just imagine an imaginary grid drawn over it...
 

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yeah..
but ud make an interesting doctor without clinical evidence..

haha.. "my harrison's is so old.. it recommended blood letting :p"
 

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don't ask me- i'm just a med student!
if you want clinical evidence ask any tutor or doctor
 

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sorry i got confused there...its not AF as I suggested but actually VF...there is no identifiable pacemaker rhythm (possibly caused by establishment of many re-entrant circuits)...i just brushed up my cardiology today (good ol' Guyton lolz)
 

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