O okhan90 New Member Joined May 22, 2006 Messages 16 Gender Male HSC 2007 Sep 5, 2007 #1 heyy i was just wondering how to figure out the oxidation state of a compound such as umm.. like juz say H2SO4 thanxx
heyy i was just wondering how to figure out the oxidation state of a compound such as umm.. like juz say H2SO4 thanxx
F Forbidden. Banned Joined Feb 28, 2006 Messages 4,436 Location Deep trenches of burning HELL Gender Male HSC 2007 Sep 5, 2007 #2 The total charge on H2SO4 is neutral. Or do you wanna find the oxidation state of the 2H+ or SO42-
O okhan90 New Member Joined May 22, 2006 Messages 16 Gender Male HSC 2007 Sep 5, 2007 #3 lol neutral :S... i dont kno we did it in class before something like H2SO4 = 0 then valency of h x 2 + 4(valency of S and O) = 0 something like that i fink but im not sure
lol neutral :S... i dont kno we did it in class before something like H2SO4 = 0 then valency of h x 2 + 4(valency of S and O) = 0 something like that i fink but im not sure
P Partisan Member Joined Aug 16, 2007 Messages 71 Location :noitacoL Gender Undisclosed HSC N/A Sep 5, 2007 #4 The oxidation number (O.N.) of a monatomic ion is equal to the charge on the ion. e.g O.N. of H+ = +1 O.N. of H+ = 2 x +1 The sum of the oxidation numbers of all atoms in a neutral molecule is zero. Sum of O.N. of H2SO4 = 0 as there is no charge. e.g if you want to find the O.N. of either ion it's just simple linear algebra. O.N. of H+ in H2SO4 is 2x - 2 = 0, solve for x. (- 2 because O.N. & charge for SO42- is - 2) (2x because 2H+ is diatomic) O.N. of SO42- in H2SO4 is 2 + x = 0, solve for x.
The oxidation number (O.N.) of a monatomic ion is equal to the charge on the ion. e.g O.N. of H+ = +1 O.N. of H+ = 2 x +1 The sum of the oxidation numbers of all atoms in a neutral molecule is zero. Sum of O.N. of H2SO4 = 0 as there is no charge. e.g if you want to find the O.N. of either ion it's just simple linear algebra. O.N. of H+ in H2SO4 is 2x - 2 = 0, solve for x. (- 2 because O.N. & charge for SO42- is - 2) (2x because 2H+ is diatomic) O.N. of SO42- in H2SO4 is 2 + x = 0, solve for x.
V vulgarfraction Member Joined Aug 27, 2006 Messages 549 Gender Undisclosed HSC N/A Sep 5, 2007 #5 summary: sum of oxidation numbers for all neutral atoms/molecules is 0 sum of oxidation numbers for ion is valency of the ion O is -2 (except for in H2O2, where it is 1) H is always +1 hope that helps (so in H2SO4: H is +1, O is -2, total is 0 :. S is 6.)
summary: sum of oxidation numbers for all neutral atoms/molecules is 0 sum of oxidation numbers for ion is valency of the ion O is -2 (except for in H2O2, where it is 1) H is always +1 hope that helps (so in H2SO4: H is +1, O is -2, total is 0 :. S is 6.)
B brenton1987 Member Joined Jun 9, 2004 Messages 249 Gender Undisclosed HSC N/A Sep 5, 2007 #6 Partisan said: (2x because 2H+ is diatomic) Click to expand... No it isnt. 2H+ is 2 monatomic ions. H2 is diatomic. vulgarfraction said: H is always +1 Click to expand... Except in metal hydrides when it is -1. eg. LiAlH4 which has Li+1, Al+3 and H-1.
Partisan said: (2x because 2H+ is diatomic) Click to expand... No it isnt. 2H+ is 2 monatomic ions. H2 is diatomic. vulgarfraction said: H is always +1 Click to expand... Except in metal hydrides when it is -1. eg. LiAlH4 which has Li+1, Al+3 and H-1.
V vulgarfraction Member Joined Aug 27, 2006 Messages 549 Gender Undisclosed HSC N/A Sep 5, 2007 #7 I knew there was an exception.