People don't know HOW to learn. (3 Viewers)

[Fizzy_Cyst]

It is sad to see that so many of you apparently have inadequate teachers. Awesome to see a lot of you taking it on ourself. That is what you have to do. Learning doesn't stop after high school, nor does it after university. If anything, it gets harder as university lecturers wont have time to answer most individual inquiries. You won't always have a reliable, inspirational and motivated teacher pressing F5 and waiting for your edmodo post or email.

The ones who succeed are the ones who don't make excuses such as 'my teacher sucks', 'my teacher is not motivating me' etc.. This must come from within, you must WANT to learn.. You guys aren't dogs, we are not gonna dangle scooby snacks in front of you to make you do your homework.

Don't be confined by the syllabus, read beyond it.

Learning about HOW you learn is so important for success in your HSC and beyond.

 

[Bobbo1]

1) 100% attention given to a willing teacher at all times
2) Be able to evaluate the information recieved and how it relates to previous bits of information
3) Ask constructive questions as much as possible - note the word constructive here, we don't ask questions to find flaws but rather to learn.

Revise at home what was learnt during the day, for only a max of 1 hour depending on content size (usually I would say 20-30 min) (each subject)

Many people don't fulfill 1, 2 or 3.

Totally agreed, rote learning and memorising might get you through the HSC but once you hit uni you're going to have a terrible time...

 

[jnney]

Not really, most of the learning should come from the student. A teacher will give you the information properly and explain it. Its up to the student to devise his/her own study methods and ways of practising. There is no responsibility whatsoever on a teacher or anyone to tell the student how to study effectively.

Yes, they do.

If I was tutoring a biology student, but then I turned around and said, 'well I know you came to me fore help, but you need to figure out how to get the marks you want on your own buddy' - how would that turn out?

Teachers are not obligated to strictly monitor a student's performance. But it is their role to provide encouragement, guide them through new curves, and assist them during difficult situations.

Correct. The student has to find their own way. The teacher can't spoon feed that to the student.

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Ultimately, yes. But there is always someone that starts them off, whether that be a teacher, an ex-student, tutor, friends, etc. How do you learn to walk? To drive a car without any sort of manual or guidance? To talk? To read?

 

[enoilgam]

Ultimately, yes. But there is always someone that starts them off, whether that be a teacher, an ex-student, tutor, friends, etc. How do you learn to walk? To drive a car without any sort of manual or guidance? To talk? To read?

I agree. I have said many times on BoS that the biggest determinant of a student's ATAR is ultimately the student. However, that being said, all students need some form of help from teachers, parents, friends etc during the HSC. It's like being the Captain of a ship - the Captain takes advice and gets assistance from his subordinates, as their help is essential to the successful operation and running of the ship. However, at the end of the day, the Captain is at the helm and they ultimately they alone decide on what to do, after taking on board the advice and assistance of those around them.

 

[someth1ng]

This thread seems to imply that teachers are not important but...they really are quite important in HSC.

About the time studying, I think its also to do with social expectations and all that crap. Another reason why people don't study for HSC is that they don't know that HSC content is generally quite easy.