PETA compares slavery, the holocaust... to animals. (1 Viewer)

[Xayma]

Chimpanzees can go to 160cm (Wikipedia) thats taller then some humans but they are also stronger and really only controllable until they turn 4 before they become too powerful.

But the protein thing makes sense. You can look at the growth of Japanese immigrants in America in the earlier half of the century. They were taller then mainland Japenese due to the larger protein intake.

 

[katie_tully]

A few personal favourites from the PETA website

We've uncovered shocking CDC statistics showing that it's time to ban the cruel, dangerous practice of chaining dogs—for the sake of both dogs and kids alike. Learn how to make your community safer for everyone

Remind me to let my dog Lizzy chase cars over being chained up whilst unsupervised. =\

Soy is truly a wonder food—you can bake it, bread it, shred it, sauté it, fry it, whip it, sip it, and dip it

But can you hamburger it!?

Every year, more than 27 billion farmed animals and fish are killed for food in the United States alone. PETA’s new video, “Chew on This,” sheds light on animal suffering and highlights many of the other reasons to choose a compassionate, plant-based diet.

You too can walk, talk and look like an asparagus sprout!

Veganism in a Nutshell,” by PETA’s Director of Vegan Outreach Bruce Friedrich, lays out the ethical argument for veganism in a short and accessible manner. With powerful analysis of the cruelty, human misery, environmental degradation, and health problems associated with meat production and consumption, Bruce makes the case that a vegan diet is the only acceptable choice for ethical people.

Take that you meat eating, unethical bastards.

'American Idol' Carrie Underwood and Coldplay's Chris Martin Are Voted 'World's Sexiest Vegetarians'

:s if they're sexy, call me proud to be a disgusting, unethical meat eater.

To prevent this so-called "flystrike," Australian ranchers perform a barbaric operation-called "mulesing"-where they force live sheep onto their backs, restrain their legs between metal bars, and, without any painkillers whatsoever, slice dinner-plate-sized chunks of flesh from around their tail area. This is done to cause smooth, scarred skin that can't harbor fly eggs. Ironically, the exposed, bloody wounds themselves often get flystrike before they heal.

Um...actually... The process of mulsing involves removing the tail of the lamb, not removing large chunks of the animal. If any chunks of the animal are removed, then obviously you aren't mulsing correctly.
It can be done several ways. One is using a rubber band which slowly constricts blood flow to the area, so the tail drops off. There is no blood, and the bands are placed inbetween the vertebrae on the tail so that the end result is a clean, shorter tail. This prevents flies from being able to harbour themselves in moist, poopy areas, thus diminishing the chance of severe fly strike.
The other method is using a gas knife which cuts the tail off using heat, again inbetween the vertebrae so that it isnt cutting through bone or cartilage. The heat then quarterises the wound so that it does not bleed. Antiseptic spray and or powder is then administered to the wound to prevent fly strike, further bleeding and excessive pain to the animal.

Do they honestly think farmers enjoy this practice? No, we don't. Unfortunately it is a necessary evil.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

hahaha "so called 'flystrike'" do they think people made it up so they can go out and do this for fun?

 

[katie_tully]

Yeah coz we enjoy spending hours doing this to 3000 sheep, purely to ward off any potential made up afflictions.

 

[transcendent]

If you can't tell the difference between a carrot and a Cow then you have a problem.

I think peta do theirjob in that they make us aware how we commodify animals. to ensure we are aware of animal rights.

I also simply don't understand how people can be cruel to animals. What kind of person gets a hoot out of hurting animals.

I would actually get a hoot out of hurting animals. I destroyed a colony of ants out the front of my house. That campaign took me 2 months worth of afternoons... plus I was bored and only 9 at the time. Only reason I don't buy a BB gun and shoot down all the pigeons in my neighbourhood is because I don't have access to a BB gun, it's illegal and society pressures me not to do these things. Else I'd have made spears and slingshots from whatever it is I can find and go hunt them down. I think I'm the only person who wants to put a grenade in a bread roll at Eddy Avenue park and obliterate all those pigeons. I find that both funny and worth the money for the grenade. Unfortunate that I'd get arrested in the process.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

What kind of person gets a hoot out of hurting animals.

There's apparently a connection between abuse towards animals and abuse towards people.

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

I didn't suggest we stop eating meat. Peta does a good job informing people that they do not have canine teeth.

I really do think people eat too much meat. Red meat is not easy to digest. Eating it day in and day out in large portions (without other healthy stuff + Beer) results in a very large gut. Something you see way too many Americans carrying and now Australians. Possible the cause of colon cancer and other digestive related problems. Passing so much red meat isn't exactly good for the intestines and the human colon.

Meat should be eaten in Moderation. Not as a part of three meals a day.

wat r u on about?... pls tell me u kno tat canine teeth are the pair after the incisors from the front.. .. :S

i dun doubt ure right.. about the bowel cancer tho..
but red meat about 250g /week is enough to fulfill a womans iron intake 100% for the week... before u tell me about iron supplements and spinach... its the form.. its called haem iron its better absorbed.

 

[jennylim]

OH IC...you must be a very pretty girl...with your canines.

PETA is there to ensure people don't actually believe that. Human teeth are not meat eating teeth. Our digestive system is also not made to digest large amounts of meat. This doesn't mean DONT EAT MEAT - it means be aware of your impact. sure PEta often go too far but you have to admit there are some idiotic people out there who think Humans were designed to be meat eaters.

http://www.saunalahti.fi/glottis/hammas/toinen_kulma.jpg

each human has incisor teeth at the front, followed by canine teeth aka eyeteeth - which are designed for biting and tearing food, generally meat. you were taking the piss, right? just to make sure...here's a site to help you realise what teeth we have and where they are.

http://vilenski.org/science/humanbody/hb_html/tooth.html

more about canines - to further inform you that we do, indeed, have "meat eating teeth":

http://www.forensicdentistryonline.org/Tooth_morphology/adult_canine_morph.htm

in addition to these teeth, each human has molars for chewing and grinding vegetables and cereals with. humans are omnivores. therefore designed to eat both meat and vegetables, not just one or the other. i know that perfectly well, thank you very much.

completely cutting out one or the other is not particularly beneficial. carnivores often get bowel cancer because there's not enough fibre in their diet - as you have been kind enough to point out. herbivores aka vegetarians are often undernourished because there's not enough protein or iron (note i said often, not always - smart ones eat legumes and other nutritious vegetables).

PETA is about completely cutting out meat as a food because it's inhumane to eat animals. which i somewhat disagree with.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

But they seem to believe that basically any killing of an animal is unethical.

 

[jennylim]

Peta is about the ETHICAL treatment of animals. You dont have to be a vegtarian to agree with that. You dont have to agree with everthing they say. But I DO believe in the ethical treatment of animals. I dont like to see animals suffer needlessly. I dont like people who pride themselves on eating excessive amounts of meat who think its some god given right.

People priding themselves on how much dead meat they can consume is a bit sick.

...but i don't. i simply enjoy eating meat and think it's a good nutritious food - full of protein and iron. i'm not a carnivore and certainly eat a balanced diet (although what relevance this has to the conversation i have no idea).

that said torturing animals is awful. i felt really, really sorry for that kitten a while back - the one that got ridden on by bicycles and stuff...that was just disgusting. i have no issue with animal rights - remember i said the RSPCA and the WWF was ok - it was just this extremist ohmygodyoucan'teatmeatbecauseit'scruel position that annoyed me. not necessarily yours but PETA's.

 

[loquasagacious]

The most interesting theory I've seen behind the reasons that people become PETA-like is childrens books. We give children lovely farmyard anaimal books, depicting farms with talking caring human animals, there is no slaughter etc the farm apparently doesn't do that thye just exist. Then at a later stage in life children connect the beef, chicken etc on their plate to the personified animals and they find eating meat unethical because they find eating people unethical.

In short society through pop-culture mistakenly attributes all the qualities and attributes of being a human to many other animals, as a result people's respect for other people is applied to animals.

 

[supercharged]

I think overconsumption of meat and excessive protein in the diet is bad for the kidneys as well. Red meat (except for kangaroo) is actually the most unhealthy form of meat. It's better to eat white meat or fish than red meat.

 

[Waldo]

why kangaroo?

 

[supercharged]

because kangaroo meat is naturally less fatty and healthier than other red meats

 

[jennylim]

although a lot of people certainly eat waaay too much (not only meat, but carbohydrates, saturated fats, cholesterols, etc) i think red meat has been sufficiently demonised amongst certain demographics. in fact, with the majority of young women meat-eating should be encouraged rather than otherwise - anaemia is fairly prevalent. obviously, though, not excessive consumption as i think we've established.

kangaroo and venison are apparently the best meats (in fact, most game instead of farmed animals) because they're (often) wild, have far more movement and freedom and aren't stuffed up with pesticides. i think that's the case, anyway.

so treating animals nicely (ie battery hens) is fine by me. but i maintain that meat is important for our diets, in moderation, like everthing else.