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No, it was your next post about deformities that implied that.
Raped by her uncle, but can she have an abortion? (4 Viewers)
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I don't either, but she would be a lot better off if she did have the abortion.want2bdifferent said:
Look, no-one here is saying that abortion is a good thing, but like I said before, it sometimes becomes a necessary evil that is needed to save someone's life and sanity.
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well like i said, i am sorry if that is what you interpreted it as, and that was not my intention at all.black_kat_meow said:
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Dan, stop being so horrible. She's not going to listen to you if you keep calling her names...
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are you talking about me and shroe?ur_inner_child said:
I dont listen to him anyway
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Thinking about this merely in terms of whether or not the baby will be deformed is simplifying the issue to a retarded level imo. It doesn't really matter who raped her, it could have been a friend or neighbour or some random on the street. She's been traumatised beyond belief regardless, and weighing up the level of distress likely to be caused to her by carrying and having the baby as opposed to aborting it and trying to get on with the rest of her life, I'd say aborting it is the way to go. Like others have said, it's not a pretty thing and it's not a nice thing, but sometimes you have to make decisions that are neither pretty nor nice nor completely morally "clean".
If she had the baby, whether she adopted it out or pretended to be its sister or not, she'd have to live with the memories of that pregnancy and birth for the rest of her life as well as the knowledge that somewhere out there is a child that was concieved from a terrible crime that she also has to remember for the rest of her life no matter what she does. That's too much to ask of a child. At least aborting the baby will allow her the possibility of, if not forgetting she was pregnant, then moving on from it more easily. There's no way you could move on from something like that if you actually had to have the baby. I'd probably consider suicide and I'm nearly twice her age. Can you imagine what she felt?
If she had the baby, whether she adopted it out or pretended to be its sister or not, she'd have to live with the memories of that pregnancy and birth for the rest of her life as well as the knowledge that somewhere out there is a child that was concieved from a terrible crime that she also has to remember for the rest of her life no matter what she does. That's too much to ask of a child. At least aborting the baby will allow her the possibility of, if not forgetting she was pregnant, then moving on from it more easily. There's no way you could move on from something like that if you actually had to have the baby. I'd probably consider suicide and I'm nearly twice her age. Can you imagine what she felt?
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scumbags? who else other then me do you think is a scumbag?Schroedinger said:I'm just sick of these fucking moralistic scumbags who will wantonly sacrifice the health and safety of others for their own moralistic ABSOLUTIST AGENDA!
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People have repeatedly denied their flaws in an argument, while secretly going away with something after it all. How many people have changed through patient discussion in NCAP?
We can name a few. I for one, and my long gone Christianity.
We can name a few. I for one, and my long gone Christianity.
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that is not what I said, Like i said i was just wondering, i was not suggesting at all that it is ok cos it is not her biological uncle?Schroedinger said:
I find it intresting in this thread it seems to be every one against me
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I do not know if one sin is worse then another i have wondered that myself.Enteebee said:
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Ok, fine, yes it does eliminate the problem of deformities.want2bdifferent said:
It doesn't eliminate any of the other problems though, nor does it in any way AT ALL make the crime less abhorrent. Biological uncle, completely unrelated random man, doesn't matter. Rape is rape.
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Oh it was random, i was just curious though that was all.^CoSMic DoRiS^^ said:
The thing is... if abortions are no worse than me saying "fuck jesus" then why don't you crusade to stop me saying "fuck jesus" just as much as you crusade against this? If you 'don't know' which sin is worse than the other than who are you to go ahead and just decide one is more important than the other anyway?want2bdifferent said:
Furthermore if we all base our morals on what our 'god' tells us, where does this lead us? What if my 'god' which I sincerely believe in is telling me to abort babies, what do we do then? Go to war? I mean, how would you feel if this was a discussion about actually raping your niece and you were saying it's wrong but I just said 'but I believe god thinks it's good', where do we go from there?
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I think knowing jesus is the most important thing in the world. without it you go to hell,Enteebee said:
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Well the reason that everyone is 'against you' as you put it is because it seems like you haven't taken the time to carefully think about what you're going to say, and so now you'll just have to deal with the consequences.want2bdifferent said:
If you weren't implying that it would be better if it wasn't her biological uncle then you should have said it to start off with!
THINK. BEFORE. YOU. POST. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR MIND.
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No, it won't. It won't at all. This is why I don't have 'faith'.CharlieB said:
The ability to think differently today from yesterday distinguishes the wise man from the stubborn.
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you don't have faith cos christians believe that if you don't believe in jesus you go to hell?squeenie said: