reality check of uni? (2 Viewers)

[Triangulum]

racist

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[Matt Samson]

racist

It isn't racist as I don't hate Asians. But it is quite difficult to participate in a tutorial where the majority of the students cannot understand English. How can you have a group discussion about something?

And I am not talking about the Asians who were born in Australia, because even they got frustrated that these students couldn't participate fully. But I suppose the International Student buck speaks volumes more than quality education.

 

[jb_nc]

It isn't racist as I don't hate Asians. But it is quite difficult to participate in a tutorial where the majority of the students cannot understand English. How can you have a group discussion about something?

yeah being non-white doesn't mean you can't speak english

 

[jb_nc]

white power

_{(not racist)}

 

[^CoSMic DoRiS^^]

i've managed group discussions with people who had minimal English. it's not impossible, you just gotta accept that you'll be repeating yourself a bit and speak a bit slower...

 

[Matt Samson]

yeah being non-white doesn't mean you can't speak english

True, but they're not exactly from Singapore either.

I am wondering whether uSyd or UNSW tests these international students for English proficiency? Both written and oral.

 

[Matt Samson]

i've managed group discussions with people who had minimal English. it's not impossible, you just gotta accept that you'll be repeating yourself a bit and speak a bit slower...

And get half as much done as you would have? This is Australia, the language of this nation is English and to participate fully one should be able to speak it, especially in academic institutions.

 

[^CoSMic DoRiS^^]

And get half as much done as you would have? This is Australia, the language of this nation is English and to participate fully one should be able to speak it, especially in academic institutions.

oh i'm not going into that argument with anyone else ever again

except to say that you gotta start somewhere and English is a complex language

and that if you went to Japan or something as an international student you wouldn't exactly be fluent in the lingo either, so cut em some slack.

 

[Azamakumar]

True, but they're not exactly from Singapore either.

I am wondering whether uSyd or UNSW tests these international students for English proficiency? Both written and oral.

Yeah I really wish that the universities would take some time out to ensure only people that speak fluent english could get in. I wish we could all live like we used to in Middle School. I wish we could bake a cake filled with rainbows and smiles and everyone would eat and be happy.

 

[Azamakumar]

I've been to every lecture in every uni in every country and CSU is by far the best.

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

And I am not talking about the Asians who were born in Australia, because even they got frustrated that these students couldn't participate fully. But I suppose the International Student buck speaks volumes more than quality education.

Yeah I'd agree with that. In GOVT in s1 last year, there was that problem in our tutorials. Shelley would inevitably get to the international student enclave, and there'd be silence for about 5 minutes while they struggled to get something out, until she politely moved the discussion onward or someone else said something. If someone said something, it'd always be a stupid comment because there was never enough substance to disagree with.

But lol, that's the only example I can come up with, and I went to UNSW where there's twenty Asian folks for every non-Asian person. Clearly it's not a regular occurance, you racist semen face.

 

[^CoSMic DoRiS^^]

where'd you get that quote from neb

 

[Azamakumar]

You LOL.

EDIT: lol it's matt's

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

Post #45, my dear.

 

[Matt Samson]

Yeah I'd agree with that. In GOVT in s1 last year, there was that problem in our tutorials. Shelley would inevitably get to the international student enclave, and there'd be silence for about 5 minutes while they struggled to get something out, until she politely moved the discussion onward or someone else said something. If someone said something, it'd always be a stupid comment because there was never enough substance to disagree with.

But lol, that's the only example I can come up with, and I went to UNSW where there's twenty Asian folks for every non-Asian person. Clearly it's not a regular occurance, you racist semen face.

It isn't just about Asians. I would say the same thing if they came from South America, Europe, Africa or even North America (Quebec anyone?). If you don't know English (written and spoken), you should not be allowed to enrol.

I had a Dutch person in one of my tutorials last year, and she spoke English as if it were her native tongue. I had no problem with that.

This is the reality check of both these institutions.

 

[^CoSMic DoRiS^^]

Post #45, my dear.

oh he edited it

im blind

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

This is the reality check of both these institutions

I'd much rather an occasional non-English-speaking fob than go to that glorified teachers college called CSU. olol.

 

[Matt Samson]

I'd much rather an occasional non-English-speaking fob than go to that glorified teachers college called CSU. olol.

We're more known for our School of Communication, well, my campus anyway.

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

tee hee hee, I just wanted to use that image.

 

[lachlan43]

Yeah, that guy really fails. He got hit in the face by a ball once, and he only earned $10,000 a week for 15 years doing it.