Robot soldiers deployed in Iraq (1 Viewer)

[jm1234567890]

http://www.chipzilla.org/?article=20880

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best thing is now all the "america's army" champions can come into use!!!

so that was what that game was preparing for!!!

 

[The Scarecrow]

Does anyone see a resemblence between the SWORDS and the T-1's in Terminator 3? Whats next? Skynet!?

But it will be a catchup game, nice idea, but how long until someone comes up with better jammers and nice little EMP det-packs....? You cant match human adaptability.

 

[Stan..]

Nice. At least we all know that Iraq is just a weapons testing ground.

 

[loquasagacious]

Does provide a logical reason for starting a war there......

 

[mr EaZy]

i dont like this,

its not that i dont like the tech, its just that the US is relying on tech in such a way as to replace the role of the traditional marine!

these robots are highly accurate and stuff (coz they use cameras that came zoom in and stuff), they can probbly pick out camo units and vechiles, are remotely operated,

but i reckon they will only be used for gaurd duties only and on recon missions, not like iunto the frontline (unless used for support) u cant replace american muscle with robots!

well, recently american muscle HAs been replaced- BY A WHOLE HEAP OF FAT! (saw in an article marines are getting fatter! - some are obese )

 

[loquasagacious]

The problem being that this divorces the soldier from the fighting, ever since man fought with other man he has done so knowing that he has only assumed the right to kill by also accepting that he may die. Without this fighting looses any moral legitimacy that it had.

This would divorce a soldeir from the consequences of their actions which makes commiting of war crimes, attrocities and otherwise inherantly evil or bad things exponentially more likely. As an example we have computer games, when God mode is enabled and we can not die we will kill indiscriminantly with no regard for others. Another example is forums like these, on here we are divorced from reponsibility for what we say and so we often talk without regard for any restraints an oft quoted example being: offline - I do not agree with your politics versus online - I HOPE YOU GET RAPED IN THE ARSE BY BIKERS TWICE - WITHOUT LUBE, YOU COMMUNIST/FASCIST PIG!!!!

 

[jm1234567890]

errrr.... i don't quite agree.

the soldiers will prolly be more agressive, but the accuracy and the time gained to think about the target will ultimately reduce civilian casulties.

the danger is to give the controllers to a buch of geeks and pretend it is a computer game

 

[loquasagacious]

Yes more aggression = less thinking + more shooting ='s more killing.

 

[SashatheMan]

i reckon using robots is a good idea. especially sending them to those dangerous areas where terrorists blow up bombs on the road etc killing men. we needmore un-maned vehicles. the US is already using some technology like the unmaned planes.

 

[loquasagacious]

You fail to address any moral/ethical problems, as a society we must accept that to enter into a war is to recieve casualties. Losses have to be acceptable otherwise we become morally bankrupt.

 

[Stan..]

I would be extra pissed if i got shot by a robot. At least let it be a real person. Seriously, they don't make war like they use to.

See Bombs, Smart.

 

[Slidey]

I'm surprised something this crude wasn't invented earlier.

 

[jm1234567890]

well it isn't that crude since you must remember it has to travel over some crazy terrain and withstand gunfire...

 

[phizz]

These aren't robots, their expensive puppets!

No Artificial Intellegence what-so-ever!

By using these puppets, there is a good possibility that there will be less casualties (though in the hands of the USA, this is about 90% unlikely) as a robot's death has no value compared to a human's life, guns can be rplaced with stun/tranc' or knock-out gas gun thingos so that the opposite side can be lawfully judged.

But like everything else, this will 'casue even more problems as prisions will be overloaded and exocution no better than them themselves.

So regardless of what you do, theres no winners in a war. WWII wasn't won, theres still neo-nazis being jerks, it just never ends!

 

[Frigid]

the danger is to give the controllers to a buch of geeks and pretend it is a computer game

but john, think of the 250ms LAGGGGG...

well at least you can't take out the SWORDS with one headshot... then agin, all these terrorist-types must have light anti-tank missiles... plus, a 4-mile an hour SWORD is kinda slow at matrix-dodging missiles... can't bunny-hop, can't run, can't evade... kinda like a sitting duck against a human, even if it has a machine gun.

 

[The Scarecrow]

The problem being that this divorces the soldier from the fighting, ever since man fought with other man he has done so knowing that he has only assumed the right to kill by also accepting that he may die. Without this fighting looses any moral legitimacy that it had.

I agree fully. Theres no honour left in the world. "We who are about to die..."

 

[Arvin Sloane]

these robots are highly accurate and stuff (coz they use cameras that came zoom in and stuff)

I find it hard to believe that I'm the only person that has trouble taking you seriously.

 

[loquasagacious]

I doubt you're the only one....

Returning to the legitimacy being a soldier has always been about accepting death, only by accepting death can a soldier be moral in killing someone, only by accepting death can a soldier justify any cause as worth fighting and killing for.

In the 19th Century a small group of soldiers called the forlorn hope was formed in seiges, were the castle walls breached they were first into the breach it was there duty to hold the breach until reinforcemnets could pour in. Their mortality rate was 90% or higher. Those who survived were promoted a rank. Only those who were willing to place their lives on the line in this way were thought worthy of instant promotion.

 

[berry580]

http://www.chipzilla.org/?article=20880

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best thing is now all the "america's army" champions can come into use!!!

so that was what that game was preparing for!!!

GREAT! Now the Americans can massacre the Iraqis and torture them and throw the robots in prison now.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

The problem is that it will make it easier for america to go to war.. like at the moment around the world (china and other oppressive countries excluded), it's very hard to go to war because you have to face public opinion.. that's the way i think it should be.