RU486 - Abortion Pill (3 Viewers)

[jesscookie]

I am all for RU486. Why is it that Australia is so willing to jump on the back of other less important American drugs, like dick solidifiers for old guys, but have great moral issues when it comes to imporving the quality of life for some Australian women? This is something that is proven to work, and can only be used in the presence of qualified professionals, there is very little that can go wrong, and it would lessen the likelihood of young women resorting to surgical abortions, or worse backyard abortions and even suicide.

 

[withoutaface]

I can't see why someone's going to fool around with a coathanger when they have surgical options :/

 

[jesscookie]

Abortions are actually pretty expensive, at 4 weeks it costs roughly $120, and it continues on a rising scale as the foetus develops. Then there is the fact that there isnt many places that do abortions, and you may not live close to one of them, you will need money for transport and accomodation while you are there too

 

[gerhard]

120 isnt that expensive.

 

[jesscookie]

you are very closed minded

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

hmmm it gets more expensive
cos
less ppl are willing to do it as the foetus becomes larger and more difficult to remove.. and then u need visual confirmation of the foetus.. like its skeleton..

also there is a tiny chance that u become sterile from a surgical abortion.. and tat sucks..

 

[Pink_Butterfly]

It's better for a child to come into this world knowing that their mother regrets having sex that night, their father doesn't want to know them, their distance family puts shame on them because they ruined their parents lives and they'll probably end up getting abuse in some way or another?

Stopping a pregnancy is the man's and women's responsibility! If you can't protect yourself or your partner, then your stupid - but I don't see why you need to bring an innocent child into the equation!

Abortions are a last option, but in many cases - it would probably have been best if one was performed! The pill? A lot easier!

 

[MissSavage29]

What's your take on this issue? Should it be legal or illegal to sell this medication over the counter?

As a pro-life supporter I think it should be made illegal. Furthermore, the ease of its administration will only make society more irresponsible .

I dont think you can generalise society as getting more irresponcible if abortion was made easier. There are a lot of people out there that seem to think that the decision to abort a pregnancie is taken lightly and that if RU486 becomes avaliable it will only encourage more people to take such a decision without thinking about the consequences. I really doubt that any of these people making such comments have ever themselves been in a position where they have had to consider abortion as a possibility.
Regardless of how they fell pregnant it cannot be an easy decision to make.

If you've heard any of the stories of the actual process itself - its not very nice and for many women can be very traumatic. Having something like RU486 can help make a bad situation a little bit easier for a women who has to go through with this. When many women talk about it they say that the guilt was hard enough to deal with - added to that the uncomfort that they undergo with the actual procedure.

This topic gets me so anoyed - i When it comes down to it - if i ever came into a situation where i was pregnant and i couldn't go through with having the baby i would rather have something like RU486 then have to undergo the surgical procedure - and i hate the fact that there are a group of people out there (who will never find themselves in that type of position - because its impossible) who believe they know what is best.

 

[withoutaface]

Can we please stop saying that because they lack the relevant equipment that they're incapable of having an opinion on the matter?

 

[KFunk]

Why is it that Australia is so willing to jump on the back of other less important American drugs, like dick solidifiers for old guys, but have great moral issues when it comes to imporving the quality of life for some Australian women?

In taking viagra you don't make a conscious decision to deny a being its existence (<--- note: moral issue).

 

[Generator]

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Anti-abortion submissions flood Senate inquiry into RU-486
AM - Wednesday, 18 January , 2006 08:08:00
Reporter: Louise Yaxley


KAREN PERCY: A Senate inquiry looking into the controversial RU-486 pill has been inundated with about 4,000 submissions most of which oppose use of the so-called abortion pill.

The Private Members Bill at the centre of the inquiry would remove the Health Minister's veto over the drug and instead let the Therapeutic Goods Administration decide if it should be approved.

The Democrats leader, Lyn Allison, says anti-abortion activists have flooded the inquiry with hostile letters.

The intense and passionate lobbying won't end with the Senate committee though, because the final decision will come in a conscience vote of all MPs and Senators.

Louise Yaxley reports.

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US groups monitor abortion pill debate in Australia
AM - Wednesday, 18 January , 2006 08:12:00
Reporter: Kim Landers


KAREN PERCY: The political fight over RU-486 is being watched closely in the United States where abortion is a hot political topic. And at least one American-based group is trying to influence the Australian inquiry.

North America Correspondent Kim Landers reports.

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[flipsyde]

I am for the drug as long as (and yes this has already been said but I'm stating my opinion) it is administered by a doctor/specialist there and then... not sold over the counter and the persons conditions must be assessed before they can be administered the drug, ie not just walk in and sayt they want it then be administered it.

 

[gerhard]

its just so bizarre to try and stop the drug when having an abortion is legal. its like make euthenasia legal but only by being skinned and then dismembered while alive.

but if we introduce a less painful way of dying, everyone will do it!

 

[davin]

hmmm it gets more expensive
cos
less ppl are willing to do it as the foetus becomes larger and more difficult to remove.. and then u need visual confirmation of the foetus.. like its skeleton..

also there is a tiny chance that u become sterile from a surgical abortion.. and tat sucks..

whats wrong with the sterile side effect if they don't want kids anyway?



my view generally, is that i consider abortion to be something taht should be legal, however, generally speaking (some situations are exceptions), i do consider it wrong. my overall philosophy is that government should allow people to make whatever choices they want to so long as they aren't hurting others.... and i consider a fetus not as its own seperate entity since its dependant still.

and i think the comment about the pill being too easy isn't to punish, but to make it something that has to be considered more strongly.

 

[Lexicographer]

This pill may be easy to use, but it is far from safe and uninvasive. The number of failed treatments is huge, not to mention the severe hormonal disturbance as well as the egg-beater being applied to the woman's biochemistry, RU-486 is a particularly nasty poison.

I understand people are supporting it on the grounds of making abortion more readily available to women who want it, and though I disagree I understand and accept your position. However, I do not accept support of this particularly harmful drug, as it is so harmful to such a large number of women. At least consider the implications of a particular drug before you support it "on principle".

 

[leetom]

This pill may be easy to use, but it is far from safe and uninvasive. The number of failed treatments is huge, not to mention the severe hormonal disturbance as well as the egg-beater being applied to the woman's biochemistry, RU-486 is a particularly nasty poison.

I understand people are supporting it on the grounds of making abortion more readily available to women who want it, and though I disagree I understand and accept your position. However, I do not accept support of this particularly harmful drug, as it is so harmful to such a large number of women. At least consider the implications of a particular drug before you support it "on principle".

But it has been said that RU-486 is no more dangerous than a surgical abortion.

Thank goodness for Senate inquiries, I suppose.

 

[Lexicographer]

"It has been said" by whom? Someone trying to get it past a senate enquiry by minimising public disapproval?

 

[leetom]

Sorry, I was being lazy. The 7.30 Report ran a story on it last night.

It gives a mortality rate for Mifepristone of one per 100,000, which is the same as the mortality rate for surgical abortion. So it is no more dangerous than surgical abortion. Women basically should be able to choose either one.

 

[Generator]

"It has been said" by whom? Someone trying to get it past a senate enquiry by minimising public disapproval?

Safe or not? RU 486

Edit: Parliamentary Library - RU486 for Australia?

 

[PaleReflection]

whats wrong with the sterile side effect if they don't want kids anyway?

You idiot. Just because a person doesn't want a child now, it doesn't mean they don't want one in the future.