School 'failed to get me into law' (1 Viewer)

[Rafy]

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/school-failed-to-get-me-into-law-20120516-1yrcb.html

A FORMER student who is suing Geelong Grammar School says she decided to seek damages after she failed to qualify for her preferred university course.
Rose Ashton-Weir, 18, alleges Geelong Grammar gave her inadequate academic support, particularly in maths.
Seeking compensation in the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal, she said her final secondary school score was too low to study law at the University of Sydney.
Of her time at Geelong Grammar, she said: ''I didn't ever feel I was getting the support I needed to really excel.''
Ms Ashton-Weir boarded at the school in 2008 and 2009 but finished her secondary studies at a TAFE college in Sydney. She is in the first year of a double degree in arts and sciences at the University of Sydney.
Her mother, Elizabeth Weir, is also suing the school for lost income and other expenses.
She said she gave up her chocolate fortune cookie business - which she had expected to make $450,000 over three years - because her daughter moved from Geelong to live with her in New South Wales.
She is also seeking compensation for $39,000 in rent paid when they moved to another house in Sydney.[...]

 

[Carrotsticks]

Silly person.

Besides, if she's the type to blame others for her own failure, I doubt she would flourish as a Law student anyway.

 

[Lentern]

The individual suing might have little cause to do so but it does raise the bigger question about the extent to which a school is accountable for the quality of education it provides. Particularly at a private school you essential are entering into an agreement to pay more money and in exchange the kid will get an education of a higher quality than that available within the public school system. Would a private school student(or their family) for example have grounds to sue if the school was teaching from outdated materials, say an English class that taught traditional grammar instead of functional grammar?

 

[Spiritual Being]

Wow...

 

[funkshen]

The individual suing might have little cause to do so but it does raise the bigger question about the extent to which a school is accountable for the quality of education it provides. Particularly at a private school you essential are entering into an agreement to pay more money and in exchange the kid will get an education of a higher quality than that available within the public school system. Would a private school student(or their family) for example have grounds to sue if the school was teaching from outdated materials, say an English class that taught traditional grammar instead of functional grammar?

going to a private school is not "an agreement to pay more money and in exchange the kid will get an education of a higher quality." unlike going to a public school, it is a contract, i.e. a binding agreement between two contracting parties, for a service rendered. there are no provisions in these contracts for the achievement of a certain academic result, i.e. "your student will get into usyd law!". the school is not liable for any inferior quality of education or facility unless it is expressly a violation of the contract or advertising, e.g. if they guaranteed that outdated materials were NOT used. only then would there be grounds for a lawsuit. unless these guys in the article have any evidence of a breach of contract they're shit out of luck.

 

[mirakon]

Another silly person not willing to take responsibility for their own lack of ability

 

[Lentern]

going to a private school is not "an agreement to pay more money and in exchange the kid will get an education of a higher quality." unlike going to a public school, it is a contract, i.e. a binding agreement between two contracting parties, for a service rendered. there are no provisions in these contracts for the achievement of a certain academic result, i.e. "your student will get into usyd law!". the school is not liable for any inferior quality of education or facility unless it is expressly a violation of the contract or advertising, e.g. if they guaranteed that outdated materials were NOT used. only then would there be grounds for a lawsuit. unless these guys in the article have any evidence of a breach of contract they're shit out of luck.

I sad at the start that the article involved a pretty silly law suit. I don't think you can claim that there is some agreement involved as to the quality of the services provided. Frankly I think it is assumed in any educational institution that the content being taught has not been superseded and cast aside as inadequate, to put it another way they are teaching what is believed to be true, not what was believed to be true fifteen years ago.

 

[Rixon]

chocolate fortune cookies

what a time to be alive

 

[iSplicer]

The individual suing might have little cause to do so but it does raise the bigger question about the extent to which a school is accountable for the quality of education it provides. Particularly at a private school you essential are entering into an agreement to pay more money and in exchange the kid will get an education of a higher quality than that available within the public school system. Would a private school student(or their family) for example have grounds to sue if the school was teaching from outdated materials, say an English class that taught traditional grammar instead of functional grammar?

False.

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No such guarantee is made.

 

[Galapagos]

Ultimately this girl is not taking any responsibility whatsoever for her actions (or non-actions); it's like suing the council for you falling into an obviously marked hole next to the foot path.

Hopefully this case gets trashed, like it deserves.

 

[JT145]

Utter silliness.

Next!

 

[Lentern]

False.

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No such guarantee is made.

It pretty much is, but please enlighten me, I make no secret of the fact I did fuck all work in contract law.

 

[powlmao]

Gah. She is such a fuckwit

 

[qwerty44]

It pretty much is, but please enlighten me, I make no secret of the fact I did fuck all work in contract law.

I go to a pretty expensive private school though we don't even rank on the hsc rankings (600+). We learn "discipline", "explore our spirituality", partake in "social justice", "mature as men" and learn to "respect ourselves and others".

The school is never to blame for bad results. If a student wants it bad enough, they can get anything result they want.

Also private schools have more authority over the students, which is why some parents choose them over public schools because more can be done in disciplining a student.

Going to a private school has nothing to do with 'better academic results'.

 

[powlmao]

True. Often parents send students to private schools for the influence. Often regilious schools get this.

Hence. It's always up to the student

 

[Galapagos]

Going to a private school has nothing to do with 'better academic results'.

Lol, tell that to all those Asian parents who move suburbs so they can be eligible to send their kid to James Ruse, and then from there into Law/Medical school!

Parents of top private school kids = pay lotsa money = expect kid to get 99 ATAR.

But yeah, you can't really relate your school to that of the private schools in the top 500 + if yours doesn't even get a rank below 600. YOUR school might not be academically focused (in fact it sounds more religious than your typical private school), but most of them tend to be.

 

[Lentern]

I go to a pretty expensive private school though we don't even rank on the hsc rankings (600+). We learn "discipline", "explore our spirituality", partake in "social justice", "mature as men" and learn to "respect ourselves and others".

The school is never to blame for bad results. If a student wants it bad enough, they can get anything result they want.

Also private schools have more authority over the students, which is why some parents choose them over public schools because more can be done in disciplining a student.

Going to a private school has nothing to do with 'better academic results'.

Yes dear but I didn't mention results, I referred to a higher quality of education, which I might amend to be merely a high quality of education. You seem to be suggesting that a parent who pays for their child's private education is contracting the school for nothing more than day care, that is absurd.

 

[Lentern]

True. Often parents send students to private schools for the influence. Often regilious schools get this.

Hence. It's always up to the student

I did years k-9 in a public school and had been one of the top students in my form. In year ten I transferred to a private school, at the end of the first term I was bottom of every class and struggling, I easily graduated in the 10% of students in my grade and got a better UAI than anyone at my first school. It's only anecdotal evidence sure but it does suggest something.

 

[such_such]

LOL. Even if she did win she'll never become a proper lawyer this way.

 

[qwerty44]

Yes dear but I didn't mention results, I referred to a higher quality of education, which I might amend to be merely a high quality of education. You seem to be suggesting that a parent who pays for their child's private education is contracting the school for nothing more than day care, that is absurd.

No im not suggesting that. I'm suggesting that the education can almost be considered equal at both (not about talking selective) and the 'day care' is just an extra at private (usually). The reason i say the education is almost the same because teachers at private schools aren't necessarily better its just that at orivate schools the stricter rules allow for a better learning environment.