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out of my 2.8k posts, you agreed with 1

DW DatAtarLyfe, literally no one agrees with me for most of the time and I can understand why lol

Also ppl like BandSixFix need to stop thinking all this bullshit that teachers play a major role in a student's education

Maybe when he reads my post above, he'll rethink about teachers
That's true, in the end, you make your own choices in life, deal with the teachers you have.

Life is unfair.
 

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out of my 2.8k posts, you agreed with 1

DW DatAtarLyfe, literally no one agrees with me for most of the time and I can understand why lol

Also ppl like BandSixFix need to stop thinking all this bullshit that teachers play a major role in a student's education

Maybe when he reads my post above, he'll rethink about teachers

Because students put in the effort... The best teacher doesn't necessarily mean that their students will be smarter. Although teachers do make an impact, its up to the students to push themselves.
He literally said the same you thing you did lol
 

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out of my 2.8k posts, you agreed with 1

DW DatAtarLyfe, literally no one agrees with me for most of the time and I can understand why lol

Also ppl like BandSixFix need to stop thinking all this bullshit that teachers play a major role in a student's education

Maybe when he reads my post above, he'll rethink about teachers
Because students put in the effort... The best teacher doesn't necessarily mean that their students will be smarter. Although teachers do make an impact, its up to the students to push themselves.
What the actual fuck I literally agreed with you? Holy shit.
 

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Why don't you get home schooled then? If teachers are the most useless thing.
What he's trying to say is that teachers shouldn't be blamed for our mistakes, instead we can all work hard even though if we have an inexperienced or poor teacher. Of course there are environmental factors which affect learning, but it's not major.
 

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What he's trying to say is that teachers shouldn't be blamed for our mistakes, instead we can all work hard even though if we have an inexperienced or poor teacher. Of course there are environmental factors which affect learning, but it's not major.
I still think that is an ignorant statement. Although some bad apples exist, some work very very hard to provide you guys with an education. So by diminshing their significance you are subsequently degrading their effort & hard work.
 

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What he's trying to say is that teachers shouldn't be blamed for our mistakes, instead we can all work hard even though if we have an inexperienced or poor teacher. Of course there are environmental factors which affect learning, but it's not major.
Finally someone gets where I'm coming from for once, for god's sake. Thank you Si2136 for answering that stupid and ridiculous question for me :)
 

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Cut it out. If it's a factor it's contributing. Enough of how MUCH of WHAT contributes and what is significant or insignificant. If it plays a role, it plays a role. Using comparatives here is pathetic because every individual is different. If you're an auditory learner and you're forced to read the textbook and everything to do your own work I'm pretty sure that's going to hurt.
 
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out of my 2.8k posts, you agreed with 1

DW DatAtarLyfe, literally no one agrees with me for most of the time and I can understand why lol

Also ppl like BandSixFix need to stop thinking all this bullshit that teachers play a major role in a student's education

Maybe when he reads my post above, he'll rethink about teachers
With hard work AND a great maths teacher, I went from a 60% 3U student in Year 11 to a 92% - 96% 3U student to Year 12 not only because I pushed myself but because my teacher has learnt that I learn pretty slow and goes through step by step (while letting all the 4U kids rush ahead without me).

At times, teachers DO have a role in your education.Without the care of my maths teacher and her specific catering + dedication to forcing me to show her answers I get wrong at lunch, I wouldn't be achieving the scores I am now. But if accounted with a bad teacher, it will only require MORE effort from the individual themselves to overcome that and work hard on their own. If you solely rely on a teacher, then yes, they did majorly contribute to your bad marks.

But I think most of us are smart enough to realise we can put on extra work into ourselves outside of school.
 
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With hard work AND a great maths teacher, I went from a 60% 3U student in Year 11 to a 92% - 96% 3U student to Year 12 not only because I pushed myself but because my teacher has learnt that I learn pretty slow and goes through step by step (while letting all the 4U kids rush ahead without me).

At times, teachers DO have a role in your education.Without the care of my maths teacher and her specific catering + dedication to forcing me to show her answers I get wrong at lunch, I wouldn't be achieving the scores I am now. But if accounted with a bad teacher, it will only require MORE effort from the individual themselves to overcome that and work hard on their own. If you solely rely on a teacher, then yes, they did majorly contribute to your bad marks.

But I think most of us are smart enough to realise we can put on extra work into ourselves outside of school.
Writtenloveletters (without trying to attack you here)

Imagine your maths teacher was rendered useless and he/she just gave you a textbook and told you to do questions without any demonstration. How do you think you could survive with a teacher like this? Friends teaching you? A tutor? You self learning the content and asking your peers for help?

Consider this: at uni people say that the lecturer goes at a quick lightning pace that almost no one can keep up with and there is very limited help out there (I think the only way to get help is via peers). How do you think you could survive in this environment considering how intense it could be at uni? (I heard that work done in a year at high school is equivalent to work done in a week at uni)

At the end of the day, you can't have some1 there behind your back and disciplining you for every second of the day. You have to have that self motivation to do your job. If your maths teacher doesn't set you homework, then do you just not do homework (because you assume there's no homework) or do you just do it for your own benefit? That's something I think you need to consider. I even heard at uni, they make homework optional bc it's your own responsibility for your own learning. I know even my maths teacher rarely sets out homework (but if he does, he never checks it)

All I am saying is that you need to be responsible for your own learning no matter what undesirable circumstance (such as having a bad teacher) it is and that you need to stop relying on that one teacher and try to get help from friends (it will help them as well as you) and possibly other teachers or ex-students. I faced a situation like this in the past and was extremely angry at my teachers and accused them of "not being able to teach, hence I got bad grades" but realised, why couldn't of I had self learnt the content and get help from other students and other teachers?

I'm not trying to say "Oh teachers are so shit why are they working in our school. Our school principal please fire them for not being able to teach". I'm trying to say, you need to be responsible for our own learning when we have teachers who don't work in out favour. The difference between a "good teacher" and a "bad teacher" is that a good teacher accomodates our needs and wants easier but a "bad teacher" doesn't do it hence it is harder for us to do well and we have to seek alternative means in order to combat that. You get what I mean?

Also getting a bit off track, considering that you aren't the best at physics, have you tried to visualise concepts before answering questions?
 
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Writtenloveletters (without trying to attack you here)

Imagine your maths teacher was rendered useless and he/she just gave you a textbook and told you to do questions without any demonstration. How do you think you could survive with a teacher like this? Friends teaching you? A tutor? You self learning the content and asking your peers for help?

Consider this: at uni people say that the lecturer goes at a quick lightning pace that almost no one can keep up with and there is very limited help out there (I think the only way to get help is via peers). How do you think you could survive in this environment considering how intense it could be at uni? (I heard that work done in a year at high school is equivalent to work done in a week at uni)

At the end of the day, you can't have some1 there behind your back and disciplining you for every second of the day. You have to have that self motivation to do your job. If your maths teacher doesn't set you homework, then do you just not do homework (because you assume there's no homework) or do you just do it for your own benefit? That's something I think you need to consider. I even heard at uni, they make homework optional bc it's your own responsibility for your own learning. I know even my maths teacher rarely sets out homework (but if he does, he never checks it)

All I am saying is that you need to be responsible for your own learning no matter what undesirable circumstance (such as having a bad teacher) it is and that you need to stop relying on that one teacher and try to get help from friends (it will help them as well as you) and possibly other teachers or ex-students. I faced a situation like this in the past and was extremely angry at my teachers and accused them of "not being able to teach, hence I got bad grades" but realised, why couldn't of I had self learnt the content and get help from other students and other teachers?

Also getting a bit off track, considering that you aren't the best at physics, have you tried to visualise concepts before answering questions?
Give it up. School is meant to be easier than uni for a reason. Enjoy school whilst you can ok?!

And in her case, she was forced into doing subjects she wasn't as capable at in the first place by her parents.



With that last bit though, that threw me way off charts. I think I know her enough to know what she struggles with in physics. It's nowhere near because she can't visualise concepts - but I won't even say what it is, because you should stay out of it. Your arguments, except for the one time you had people agreeing with you, are automatically degraded simply because of how you act around the BoS population as a WHOLE.

Should I be damaging my reputation by wasting breath on you? No. But I most certainly will, because I've had it with people like you thinking you know everything but you don't.


One final bit: Whilst I am the type that gets massively depressed over shit marks, at the end of the day the truth is getting those high marks at uni is not nearly as compulsory as in school - at uni you just have to pass. So who cares if you can't handle the workload to do well you only need to handle a bare minimum to not fail.
 
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Give it up. School is meant to be easier than uni for a reason. Enjoy school whilst you can ok?!
And in her case, she was forced into doing subjects she wasn't as capable at in the first place by her parents.

With that last bit though, that threw me way off charts. I think I know her enough to know what she struggles with in physics. It's nowhere near because she can't visualise concepts - but I won't even say what it is, because you should stay out of it. Your arguments, except for the one time you had people agreeing with you, are automatically degraded simply because of how you act around the BoS population as a WHOLE.

Should I be damaging my reputation by wasting breath on you? No. But I most certainly will, because I've had it with people like you thinking you know everything but you don't.


One final bit: Whilst I am the type that gets massively depressed over shit marks, at the end of the day the truth is getting those high marks at uni is not nearly as compulsory as in school - at uni you just have to pass. So who cares if you can't handle the workload to do well you only need to handle a bare minimum to not fail.
Leehuan, don't get too worked up over eyeseeyou's comments-whatever they may be, it is not worth bolding and increasing size of fonts for.

To everyone else on the thread, please refrain from derailing from this thread further with comments either on a specific user's posting or on an irrelevant topic-i.e. university work compared to high school work. If you guys want to have a conversation, do it in the non-school forum, don't spam this thread with anything but what is directly relevant to answering OP's initial question. Thank you for the cooperation.
 

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And in her case, she was forced into doing subjects she wasn't as capable at in the first place by her parents.
With that last bit though, that threw me way off charts. I think I know her enough to know what she struggles with in physics. It's nowhere near because she can't visualise concepts - but I won't even say what it is, because you should stay out of it.
I love Medical Physics 8D


at the end of the day the truth is getting those high marks at uni is not nearly as compulsory as in school - at uni you just have to pass.
IS THIS REALLY ROO? I REMEMBER SOMEONE BERATING ME FOR SAYING I'LL SETTLE WITH A CREDIT IF I FUCKED UP AND SOCIALISED TOO MUCH.
 

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I love Medical Physics 8D




IS THIS REALLY ROO? I REMEMBER SOMEONE BERATING ME FOR SAYING I'LL SETTLE WITH A CREDIT IF I FUCKED UP AND SOCIALISED TOO MUCH.
Well, I would get upset if I got a credit anyway, even if it's reality :(

Btw thanks strawberrye :)
Leehuan, don't get too worked up over eyeseeyou's comments-whatever they may be, it is not worth bolding and increasing size of fonts for.
 

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My physic teacher is the same. She doesn't even know what a controlled variable is so u can imagine
 

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went to north sydney girls before i moved - so many of the teachers were actually beyond useless, everyone just got through by tutoring LOL
 

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