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Getting home from Stammtisch was heaps annoying
Your train was mega delayed, no?
Mine was only late by a few minutes and was express. I reckon I would've almost been home by the time you were leaving Central.
 

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hey mebbe idk i was actually looking around for you today but there are a lot of blonde people who look like you in that lecture theatre. :(

That Revolutionary Road book was fantastic. Ooooh I just sent Sarah an email declaring my love of that book. Also a question, but mainly love, of said book.

back to the subject, i did not see you or bkm today, but i was wearing black skinny jeans and an argyle sweater so mebbe 'twas me. or mebbe it was close and no cigar



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GAaaaaaaay.I'm on lunchbreak neb.thought I'd let u know I'm only working til 530today
 

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Did everyone get the email, NEW UNI EMAIL SERVER AND LAYOUT LAUNCHING IN MAY!!!! Finally, none of that 2mb of storage crap!
 

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I've written two letters to Honi. Both were pretty angry, so I'm guessing that neither will be published. Here's one of them (I purposefully misspelled her name three times)

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Oh Honi,

I wish to briefly respond to Atilla Kandemir's letter, not on behalf of the Socialist Alternative but on behalf of common sense.

The image of Israel as an bulldog is far more fair than Atila gives it credit for. The elected government of Israel (which is the intended target of the poster), regardless of the particular party, frequently launches violent, nonsensical and aggressive attacks against its neighbours much like a rabid bulldog would against fellow dogs. Suicide bombing is hardly a fair image for Palestine, as very few Palestinians are suicide bombers, nor does a majority of Palestinians support such a reprehensible act.

I also object to Atilia's assertion that the Socialist Alternative ought to focus on campus issues. If Atillia, or anyone else wants to see a group dedicated to that, they should take a more active role in their SRC or student union. The Socialist Alternative is an interest group directed towards socialism, and it functions as such. It is absurd for her to level a criticism at them because they do not confront such international disasters as RIGHT HANDED WRITING SURFACES. It is not their job, as a socialist interest group, to care about such trivial issues.

I lastly suggest that thousands dying in Gaza as a result of shameful Israeli politics is a tad more important than left handed writing surfaces, so anyone focusing on Gaza over your pet peeve is probably right to do so.

Sincerely
Jim Cronshaw
Science/Arts IV
Well that’s quite an interesting position Jim, but it doesn't make sense to me. Here we have a political group that is supposed to be elected by students to represent the student body (because it is actively involved in the SRC), yet there is active denial of this exact group to actually represent students on issues that concern students. This appears as though the Socialist Alternative doesn’t actually respect the intentions of which the institution of the Student Representative Council was founded for. It appears as though the objectives of the Socialist Alternative are all about lobbying and hijacking the SRC for funds and the means in which to promote themselves and their irrelevant interests. If this group doesn’t want to represent campus issues in the student representative council, then they are clearly a purely political infiltration that are on the SRC simply for political gain.


The evidence of this is clear;

The motion for the april 1st SRC meeting was this:
April 1st SRC General Meeting said:
1. The USYD SRC publicly condemns Israels attack on Gaza
2. The USYD SRC publicly endorses and partakes in the BDS movement
3. The USYD SRC call on Sydney University to endorse and partake in the BDS movement

4. The USYD SRC endorse palestine solidarity week
5. The USYD SRC commits $1000 annually to fund palestine solidarity week, accessible by the 'global solidarity officer'.
6. The USYD SRC immediately issues a press release about this meeting and its decisions.
If you read this recent SRC motion, you should be able to determine the nature of points that are addressed. They are clearly politically biased and motivated. The aim of this motion is to align the SRC towards the political position and opinions of one political view, that of the socialists.

More absurdly, the points of this motion do nothing to aid or represent students. It would remove $1000 of SRC funding and put it towards a political agenda, one that is not even in the interest of the common student. This is undoubtedly, a move against a fair, unbiased and apolitical SRC.

This is political stupidity in the extreme. The ‘BDS’ movement is a political alignment that supports “institutionalizing a ban on cultural and academic exchanges, programmes, and visits with Israel” with a overall agenda to “undermine the academic contribution to the Israeli economy”[1].

Being a avid student teacher myself, I find this disgusting. The Socialist Alternative is actively endorsing a boycott and embargo movement that aims at attacking educational and academic institutions for a political gain. The Socialist Alternative wants the SRC, whom represents our students, to endorse and partake in educational boycott for political gain. More than that, the socialist alternative wants the SRC to badger students about an embargo movement. So much for respecting the concept of a unbiased SRC!.

The Socialists are so full of themselves. They criticise imperial powers for boycotts and embargoes, yet it is they themselves who aim to rob the common student in order to achieve their own political boycotts and embargoes.

If they want money, all they have to do is to form another one of their puppet socialist USU clubs or societies, then they can get their greedy, grubby mits on even more union profits (capitialist profits, mind you), which stretch the union budget and make the price of food even more costly.

Fortunately, I'm pretty sure these bastards got their arse beaten back to the stone ages in the vote, or there was a no-show, because I have not heard anything furthermore about this motion.

[1] Source: PACBI, BDS Movement, http://bdsmovement.net/?q=node/7
Atilla Kandemir.
 
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essay
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I have another essay and a shitload of other work to get onto, why can't this just be over with quickly
 

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ive been at this for 5 hours

aaaaaaaaah

fuck it im gonna go get pretty to go out tonight
and yes i know its early
but im so bored
 

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Well that’s quite an interesting position Jim, but it doesn't make sense to me. Here we have a political group that is supposed to be elected by students to represent the student body (because it is actively involved in the SRC),


Listen to me, alrighty? The SA is not elected by anyone. I assume you're therefore talking about Left Focus. Regarding Left Focus, you would be quite naive to believe that they were elected for any reason other than their political views - it's the reason why everyone knows them. They were elected based on their political views, and their bringing of political views to SRC meetings is justified as they have mandate to do so.

You may not like this, and you may believe that more attention should be given to left handed benches. That is a fine view to take, and you should consider running for the SRC if you believe that is an important issue. As it stands, a fair number of people elected Left Focus because they liked what they stood for, and they were elected. Get over it. Left Focus should and do represent the students that voted for them.

The SA isn't elected by the student body you stupid bitch. The rest of what you wrote is therefore moot.

More absurdly, the points of this motion do nothing to aid or represent students. It would remove $1000 of SRC funding and put it towards a political agenda, one that is not even in the interest of the common student. This is undoubtedly, a move against a fair, unbiased and apolitical SRC.
Perhaps you are a delinquent. Allow me to break it down for you
SRC = Students Representative Council

so um, if the students elected a bunch of socialists to represent them based on their political views, how exactly is this unfair?

Being a avid student teacher myself, I find this disgusting.
Being an ('an' if it preceeds a vowel) avid chemist myself, I find YOU disgusting
kekekekekekekeke!!!

Listen up: Your entire view is based on the notion that the SRC should be unbiased. This is rubbish: It is a representative council and therefore any lack of bias would be a failure of its ability to represent students. I'm not going to respond to your tangential political arguments as they have no relevance to this issue, but I'd be happy to chat about them another day. You have no point: Go back to writing shit letters for Honi.

Sincerely,
Jim Cronshaw
Science/Arts IV
 

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im usually 0/however many until about 11pm the night before something's due :(
and the worst thing is i'll have had the document open on my computer while i fb and other shit :(
 

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Listen to me, alrighty? The SA is not elected by anyone.

I assume you're therefore talking about Left Focus. Regarding Left Focus, you would be quite naive to believe that they were elected for any reason other than their political views - it's the reason why everyone knows them. They were elected based on their political views, and their bringing of political views to SRC meetings is justified as they have mandate to do so.
So, somehow the general meeting magically came to make a motion in which all seven points are purely interests of the socialist alliance?..... :rolleyes:

I think you are pretty confused as to just exactly whom is pulling strings here, kid. Names are one thing, associations are another. One in the same.


You may not like this, and you may believe that more attention should be given to left handed benches. That is a fine view to take, and you should consider running for the SRC if you believe that is an important issue. As it stands, a fair number of people elected Left Focus because they liked what they stood for, and they were elected. Get over it. Left Focus should and do represent the students that voted for them.


The SA isn't elected by the student body you stupid bitch. The rest of what you wrote is therefore moot.
No.....the socialist alliance has an elected lobby in the SRC....it happens to have a fancy name....left focus. In general, the socialists are a joke. Middle class yuppies who think they are an exclusive elite.




Perhaps you are a delinquent. Allow me to break it down for you
SRC = Students Representative Council

so um, if the students elected a bunch of socialists to represent them based on their political views, how exactly is this unfair?
The institution is supposed to represent students. Undermining the function of the SRC isn't representing student interest, it is being favourable towards a particular view. The lefties want to make the SRC a leftist institution.

It's all a moot point because nothing got passed in the SRC.

Listen up: Your entire view is based on the notion that the SRC should be unbiased. This is rubbish: It is a representative council and therefore any lack of bias would be a failure of its ability to represent students. I'm not going to respond to your tangential political arguments as they have no relevance to this issue, but I'd be happy to chat about them another day. You have no point: Go back to writing shit letters for Honi.
Go back to being an internet armchair general, where you can cower in your ignorant and racist naivety. I think you need to take a chill pill, or get laid, because you seem like you have alot of pent up rage.

The point is simply; The socialist/whatever silly group name/s you want to deflect them/call them - they want to waste money that could be put to a good use, instead they only think of shamelessly self promoting themselves.

and kid, I think you should watch who you call bitch, for your sake at least.
 
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Listen up: Your entire view is based on the notion that the SRC should be unbiased. This is rubbish: It is a representative council and therefore any lack of bias would be a failure of its ability to represent students.
You must have a basic failure to comprehend the difference between what is representation and what is institutional reform.

The irony is that you fail to see the irony of socialists wanting to force their opinion upon a student representative council, that it must endorse an imperialist style educational embargo. You fail to recognise their motions are aimed at permanent reform, not seasonal policy.

Reforms can and often do, undermine the neutrality of the actual political institutions themselves.
 

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I'd at this point like to point out that SA stalwart Alma has been censured for her abuses of power 23-2 by the Council.
 

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not really debating the validity of her views, nor whether she abuses her power in the src here waf - more debating the purpose of the src - to represent students

although if she's impeding the progress of the src somehow then i certainly wouldn't support that
 
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